I'm not gonna quote tag stuff because I hate doing that, lol. I actually don't like arguing so it takes a lot to fire me up as I'm usually very much go with the flow and tend to just do whatever the more outgoing person wants to do.
It looks like we agree on a lot of points, so I'll just hit the stuff that there's a bit of disagreement on:
I don't see what any of this has to do with gay men; if a gay guy had unrealistic expectations for his partner to meet, I would say it's the guy's fault then, too. Not saying anyone is CHOOSING this, I'm sure it's embarrassing. But that people should be grounded in reality. Though, I will concede that society does contribute to this problem. However, I think it's unfair to fault the female for not looking like an airbrushed magazine picture. Arguably, another reason to have pictures labeled. Just to make it clear, nothing wrong with wanting to be a beautiful woman, it's just the beauty in the magazines is false.
If you want feminism to be eliminated completely then you do not fully understand it. And, yes, of course both sexes have problems, feminism doesn't state otherwise. That's all I will say on that subject.
Pussy, don't really care who says it or what South Park says about words, etc. Just in my experience people who resort to calling others pussy are usually not very bright and you seem like a bright person. Just my repeated personal experience with it (and I mean real life, not in the web). Also, glad you clarified that you meant confidence and charm (and, yes, unfortunately, you can "win" some girls with money but I think guys that do this usually aim waaay out of their league, then are heartbroken after she sucks him dry and moves on). Yes, I agree with confidence and charm, but I also agree a guy should back down once told no. I've had very terrible experiences with guys not backing down and it's very frustrating and aggravating.
And again, maybe I'm thinking differently than you about the
magazine pictures. I don't think skinny=hot or even that the magazine pictures are hot because they are skinny. Even a person who works out and has good looks to start are not going to look like a magazine picture. Working out isn't going to erase scars, flat moles, moles, freckles, it won't elongate legs if you have shorter legs, it won't make boobs bigger, it won't slim a person's neck and back the way the magazines do, and it won't dilate pupils nor will it make a very dark person lighter. And it won't tan a very pale person, etc. Of course, people should work out. No one is saying morbid obesity or obesity is attractive (I know I'm not attracted to obese people). But working out isn't gonna land people airbrushed magazine looks. I know a girl that works out at least two hours a day, she's the fittest person I know and it doesn't make her hot, it just makes her fit. But obviously she's more attractive than she'd be if she were fat and she is happier and healthier than when she was slightly overweight. But she still doesn't look anywhere near the level of an airbrushed magazine.
Even if the girls had worked out, no way would they have ever looked anything like the pictures they created of themselves.
Also, on a note, I have met several women that were bigger and attracted to obese men, I have not seen this with men, but I'm sure this is more of man vs woman thing.
I think that's it.
Sure, people were insecure about themselves in the dark ages. But there wasn't any media then. Everyone knew to take a liking for who they were. (was anorexia and other eating problems around in the dark ages?)
It wasn't the Dark Ages, but Empress Sissi von Osterreich (1837-1898) was both anorexic and bulimic. She had a 19-inch waist at age 50 after bearing 4 kids.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mKkK0sZBkYo/T ... ustria.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_El ... of_Austria
Plus paintings were the original photoshop.
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98% of teens have one of these 98% statistics in their signatures, copy and paste if you're in the 2% that doesn't...hey, wait a minute...
... wow I wasn't ready for that ending.
Tsadi wrote:Was the resurrection of the Kardashians explained at some point between "The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs" and this episode?
No, though you can assume that famous people have some sort of Kenny like ability to not stay dead.
This was some amazing tragicomedy (if I'm using that word correctly)... As the episode progressed, I was finding myself increasingly annoyed by Wendy, assuming that she took umbrage with the very concept of physical attraction, when she was actually against people being attracted to false images. But briefly after the episode ended, it finally sank it that Wendy was not the butt of the joke... I was. I bought into the "jelly school" rhetoric without realizing that I wasn't supposed to agree with it, I was supposed to share in Wendy's frustration towards it.
The ending made me really f*cking sad for her. At least the Kanye bits were beyond hilarity.
Oh well, better to have realized it late than not at all. I guess that kiiiinda makes me not a sh*tty person? Eh, not really.
This episode, along with Eat, Pray, Queef, is one of those episodes that is hard to believe was written by two men, and I mean that in a positive way (although EPQ was handled a bit clumsily). It seems to be gaining ground among females who I would have thought would be turned off by SP a looong time ago. I wonder if they have any plans to make amends to the transexuals they alienated the sh*t out of back in season 9.
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