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by djadonis206
Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:27 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

I'm very curious what just a dozen of these 100 different methods of getting clean and sober are. In the United States 95% of all inpatient treatment is 12 Step. Most of the other 5% is Fundamentalist Christian and Scientology "treatment." Unless you are counting different "fellowships" that practi...
by djadonis206
Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:14 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

Dude you've proven your point AA doesn't work and you have all the statistics and facts to prove it no one's (at least me, I'm convinced) is going to debate you on this anymore - let it go

as Eric Cartman once said, "Sounds like some one has some sand in their vagina."

let it go

:roll:

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by djadonis206
Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:03 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

Hey if you want to stop getting DUI's maybe you should stop drinking before you kill someone If you want to stop beating your wife every time you get drunk or high you might want to cut out the drugs If you want to get your kids back from CPS you may want to put the meth pipe down If you're tired of...
by djadonis206
Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:26 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

You may or may not have heard about what's her name - here lets go to one of the websites you site - Seems like AA's aren't the only ones who change their tune when their backs are against the wall let me know how that moderate, scientifi drinking is working out for you? Curious - why do doctors, nu...
by djadonis206
Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:18 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

Yes, this is good debate tradition 3: the only requirment for membership is a desire to stop drinking Here's another way to put it: I'm a dj and have been fairly successful at it - I've been playing international, national and local events for the past 8 years. At one point I just wanted to dj - now...
by djadonis206
Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:20 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

[quote="Ken Ragge":00e32] ajadonis, I have no particular program. I do, however, believe that if someone is going to recommend any particular treatment, it should be one that has shown some degree of efficacy versus no treatment whatsoever. [/quote:00e32] ok - which one is that? [quote=&qu...
by djadonis206
Tue Dec 13, 2005 11:06 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

ajadonis, Who says AA is keeping people sober? They have a miserable success rate, somewhere around 2 1/2 to 5%, a high death rate and a higher rate of binging. and you're comparing this to... And who is "trying to disprove AA"? The evidence speaks for itself what AA is. See m where the evidence is...
by djadonis206
Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:43 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

So, here's my next question (i thought I only had one)

what do you propose as means of recovery for the alcoholic out there that still is drinking? and where is the proof your method works?

curious if you've taken the 12 steps and read the book of AA?


adonis
by djadonis206
Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:15 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

I guess my I have opne last question - what's the point of trying to disprove AA? If it's keeping people sober, cult or not, god or not - what's wrong with that? If you've tried the anti depressant (why would you take one drug to get off another seems obsurd) self help groups, church, your parents, ...
by djadonis206
Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:01 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

From what I understand about the history of how AA came to be is The Oxford groups where doign there thing long before Ebby Thatcher brought the message to Bill Wilson. basically there were 6 steps - Bill Wilson took those steps and changed them to work for all Alcoholics and added 6 more himself - ...
by djadonis206
Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:46 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

The thing with AA is that they focus much of their program around religion. I'm not religious (obviously), and I'm not going to accept Christ just because somebody thinks I have a drinking problem...The fact that they present themselves as a general help group is what annoys me, it's meant for Chri...
by djadonis206
Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:52 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

Re: Bloody Mary

I was actually very disappointed by the recent episode "Bloody Mary". I've been a longtime South Park fan but felt that the episode really missed the point of AA and was very irresponsible for conveying a message that is so misguided. I fully acknowledge that it is just a cartoon and Trey & Mat...
by djadonis206
Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:11 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

Re: a strange statement

I truelly believe this episode was a stretch at trying to poke fun at something that most people believe does good in the world. Alcoholism is something that exists and saying "just don't drink" kinda doesn't work. good point - and seriously, there are other ways of getting sober, AA isn't the be a...
by djadonis206
Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:47 pm
Forum: Spoilers/New Episode Discussion
Topic: *914: Bloody Mary*
Replies: 303
Views: 52262

Coming from someone who knows a lot about A.A. and their 12 step program, this episode was brilliant. From exposing the "Higher Power" in the steps (which most people already know about), to the cult like activities, to Randy having the "Disease". This episode hit home with me. I know many people w...
by djadonis206
Thu May 26, 2005 11:18 pm
Forum: Character Discussion
Topic: The Official Cartman Discussion Thread
Replies: 3915
Views: 396492

Oh my god - !

Only true Cartman fans would appreciate this - I posted this on a music forum I'm on - oh god Oh my god you guys this is soooo funny these hippies up here are throwing a party in the woods this summer right I'm standing in line at the coffee shop reading the flyer and laughed out loud because, oh my...

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