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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby JamesPup » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:49 pm

Okay so I am sorry for what I said I was just very drunk and wanted to be controversial. I paid for it and was in bed the whole next day and threw up a lot. :parishilton: But I am back now cheers. I am somewhat strong in that type of opinion but whatever. Video games like that don’t sound that fun to me. A country that is only white people sounds like what I would like. Just one would mean the world to me and millions of others. Whatever though it is not worth getting angry over. In other news they just found Hannah Graham’s body. Another black on white hate crime. I’m not for the death penalty but I hope Jesse the killer gets life in prison. He should just admit it and let everyone heal.
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:37 pm

JamesPup wrote:Okay so I am sorry for what I said I was just very drunk and wanted to be controversial. I paid for it and was in bed the whole next day and threw up a lot. :parishilton: But I am back now cheers. I am somewhat strong in that type of opinion but whatever. Video games like that don’t sound that fun to me. A country that is only white people sounds like what I would like. Just one would mean the world to me and millions of others. Whatever though it is not worth getting angry over. In other news they just found Hannah Graham’s body. Another black on white hate crime. I’m not for the death penalty but I hope Jesse the killer gets life in prison. He should just admit it and let everyone heal.

Well, personally I am a gamer with a long standing therefore games for me have some value.

The states where there live only white people it seems it is already impossible to find. In that case live on my homeland for you had would to liking. There are countries, almost uniform in a nationality, say, such as Japan, but it is wrong in my opinion.

What can you tell about such city as Detroit? Besides that it is a bankrupt and have the abandoned quarters?
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby JamesPup » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:02 am

Oh I love video games but not as much as I used to. I first owned an NES then SEGA, Nintendo 64, then Nintendo gameboy or something like it. Then Xbox and PS2. Then I had a Playstation handheld or whatever they are called and now have a Nintendo 3DS. I play now mainly web browser games. I got sick of the first person shooters. I feel like killing people when I play one and just can’t stand them now. I love Gameinformer.com and like to check it out every day and even comment. I like Japan and I have one of their cars. I know nothing about Detroit. I did not know it was bankrupt or abandoned. I do know it is Michigan but nothing else. I would never live there. :roll:
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby JamesPup » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:41 am

So Agent-FSS do you know about Oscar Pistorius at all? He has gotten away with murder for the most part. I think he has gotten a 5 years sentence but that will turn into maybe 10 months of time served only. Then he will get house arrest from what I have heard. It all sounds pretty light of a sentence for someone who had someone over their home and then says they forget they had a guess and then shoots though a door and kill the guest. The whole thing sounds scary to me. I think he should have gotten like 30 years at least or maybe life. A person should not be able to kill someone so easily and lightly without a big sentence. I can just see myself being at someone’s home and them turning on me to kill me and only getting 5 years because they forgot I was there and heard a noise. People are smarter then to forget who is at their home. Pistorius needs more time. Maybe a Fleece Johnson will get him? Might be the only justice.
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby triplemultiplex » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:53 am

It's nice to have a thread with so much activity in these slow days on SPS, but what the hell is going on around here? The topic in here changes so much and so randomly I never know what to expect or what is worth responding to.

James, what is the meaning of all this?
JamesPup wrote:A country that is only white people sounds like what I would like. Just one would mean the world to me and millions of others. Whatever though it is not worth getting angry over. In other news they just found Hannah Graham’s body. Another black on white hate crime. I’m not for the death penalty but I hope Jesse the killer gets life in prison. He should just admit it and let everyone heal.


Who are these people you mention and what made you bring them up? I am not following. :?:


If Oscar Pistorius was a professional athlete in the United States, he would be totally free because guns have more rights than people and shooting first and asking questions later is not only an American tradition, but a god-given right*. :/ :evil:
(*for white people...)
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:18 pm

JamesPup wrote:Oh I love video games but not as much as I used to. I first owned an NES then SEGA, Nintendo 64, then Nintendo gameboy or something like it. Then Xbox and PS2. Then I had a Playstation handheld or whatever they are called and now have a Nintendo 3DS. I play now mainly web browser games. I got sick of the first person shooters. I feel like killing people when I play one and just can’t stand them now. I love Gameinformer.com and like to check it out every day and even comment.

Haha. I did almost same way. Almost all began with NES whom I'd didn't ask. PS, PS2, then the PC. I never strongly like shooters (though Borderlends 2 very much was pleasant to me). I prefer RPG (or something with the RPG elements) or pure strategy.

JamesPup wrote:I know nothing about Detroit. I did not know it was bankrupt or abandoned. I do know it is Michigan but nothing else. I would never live there. :roll:

I think Detroit named the ghost town more correctly.
Outflow of the population to suburbs began in the 1950th years. More and more skilled workers, engineers, representatives of middle class sold the housing in the city and went to the suburb. The cost of real estate started falling promptly. As the most solvent population parted, in the city began financial problems. Workplaces were reduced,
owners of shops, bankers, doctors started moving there where is a solvent demand.

In the city there were those who couldn't such afford — the unemployed living on a welfare or low-paid workers, generally the Afro-Americans. Suburbs of Detroit were also promptly filled with the Afro-Americans. Among the black because of poverty and unemployment prospered the crime, so Detroit quickly became notorious as one of the most "black" and dangerous cities of the USA. At this time in the
USA cancelled a racial segregation, as a result the black began a thicket to face with white, and it led to the interracial conflict. The culmination happened in 1967 when in July confrontation between white and the Afro-Americans poured out in one of the most cruel conflicts in the history of the USA, it continued within five days, known as Disorders on 12th Street.

In 1973 oil crisis burst. It led to problems at the Big three of the American auto makers which cars, gluttonous and expensive, couldn't compete with efficient European and Japanese cars more to crisis. Plants one by one started being closed, people lost work and left Detroit. The population of the city in its administrative borders was reduced by 2,5 times: about 1,8 million in the early fifties to 700 thousand by 2012. It should be noted, however, that these figures include also the people who moved to working suburbs where the housing is cheaper and the situation is safer.

As a result of outflow of the population the whole districts of the city were left by inhabitants. Skyscrapers, plants, residential quarters stand thrown and collapse from time and vandalism. In Detroit it is possible to see streets where on one party show-windows of expensive shops brightly burn, and on another there are buildings with the broken glasses from which walls sprout trees. City authorities even let on lease the thrown quarters to the Hollywood film companies
to fill up the budget, especially there it is good to shoot post-apocalyptic movies.

A number of the areas surrounding the center of Detroit represent the depressive ghettoes occupied mainly by the Afro-Americans. These suburbs are considered as the most dangerous parts of the city, the rise in crime reigns here, gangs of robbers, groups of rappers, prospers drug trade. In comparison with them, one-storeyed suburbs of Detroit are rather safe: there live the families of white workers which left the main city in the 1950th years. Besides, Detroit and its vicinities — one of the main centers of moving of the Arab immigrants.

All last decades the government of staff and the federal authorities don't stop trying to recover the city, in particular its central part. Creation and construction of several casinos which all the same couldn't strengthen economy of Detroit became one of the last initiatives of the 2000th years. In December, 2012 deficiency of the city budget made 30 million dollars, the general debt at the beginning of the same year passed for 12 billion.

On July 18, 2013 the authorities of Detroit officially declared bankruptcy of the city because of inability to pay debts for the sum of $20 000 000 000

On January 8, 2014 the new mayor Mike Daggan elected in November, 2013 promised to solve the main problems of Detroit for half a year and asked inhabitants not to move to other cities.
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:20 pm

JamesPup wrote:So Agent-FSS do you know about Oscar Pistorius at all? He has gotten away with murder for the most part. I think he has gotten a 5 years sentence but that will turn into maybe 10 months of time served only. Then he will get house arrest from what I have heard. It all sounds pretty light of a sentence for someone who had someone over their home and then says they forget they had a guess and then shoots though a door and kill the guest. The whole thing sounds scary to me. I think he should have gotten like 30 years at least or maybe life. A person should not be able to kill someone so easily and lightly without a big sentence. I can just see myself being at someone’s home and them turning on me to kill me and only getting 5 years because they forgot I was there and heard a noise. People are smarter then to forget who is at their home. Pistorius needs more time. Maybe a Fleece Johnson will get him? Might be the only justice.


Oscar Pistorius? I know that it's an athlete with a disability, a former participant of the Olympic and Paralympic games and he was found guilty of the murder of his girlfriend, model. Sentenced just to five years in prison. Even in Russia, I have always believed that our legislation is too soft, he would got a term prison much more, I'm sure. But I don't understand why so intently covered in the press this event?
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:22 pm

triplemultiplex wrote:It's nice to have a thread with so much activity in these slow days on SPS, but what the hell is going on around here? The topic in here changes so much and so randomly I never know what to expect or what is worth responding to.

So it's good, I love the unexpected turns of events.
Question / answer on anything, I always answer when I have enough free time.
triplemultiplex wrote:If Oscar Pistorius was a professional athlete in the United States, he would be totally free because guns have more rights than people and shooting first and asking questions later is not only an American tradition, but a god-given right*. :/ :evil:
(*for white people...)

So you are not in favor of free access to weapons?
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:54 pm

Samathou
Especially for you, and for all others who are interested.

Over 12 years Putin:
• increased Russia's budget by 22 times, raised military spending - by 30 times, GDP - in 12 times (Russia jumped from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP on 6th place)
• increased Russia's gold reserves 48 times!
• returned 256 mineral deposits in the Russian jurisdiction.
• tore "liberal" enslaving agreement of the production sharing.
• nationalized 65% oil industry and 95% gas industry, and a lot of other industries.
• raised the industry and agriculture (Russia for 5 consecutive years ranked 2-3 in the world in the export of grain, overtaking the United States, which are now on the 4th place).
• increased the average salary in the public sector of 18.5 times during 12 years, the average pension - in 14 times.
• Well, and quite a small thing: He (Putin) has reduced the extinction of the Russian population with 1.5 million people per year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, ie 71.5 times.
• In addition, Putin canceled Khasavyurt agreement - than defended the integrity of Russia, forced the fifth column published, and prohibited the deputies have an account abroad, defended Syria, ended the war in Chechnya and returned to us Crimea!

Now compare these achievements with the achievements of politicians, such as Monsieur Hollande or Obama. What these people done for their country during their term?
Of course on Putin's background, many today's European political figures, and American too, look like complete losers, so they arranged him the baiting with envy. Compare Putin with Stalin - outrageous, with Hitler - the strongest insult.
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby zzyzx 2 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:37 pm

agent-FSS wrote:
zzyzx 2 wrote:Interesting thread 8)

Sorry I can't contribute much, as I'm sorry to say I'm not up on current events re: Russia :(

But, in my family genealogy, there are a lot of Russian ancestors in my DNA :)

So while I've never been to Russia, so many of my ancestors are from there.

Hmm. In your genealogy has Russian ancestors? Guess they probably left during the revolution of 1917? Or emigrated after the 50's? Or, is it on one's mother's side? How much do you know about them?
Visit land of your ancestors never too late. :D :wink:


On my mother's side.. From an area near Minsk and in a town on the Dnebe River (I think today's Belarus?).
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:32 am

zzyzx 2 wrote:
agent-FSS wrote:
zzyzx 2 wrote:Interesting thread 8)

Sorry I can't contribute much, as I'm sorry to say I'm not up on current events re: Russia :(

But, in my family genealogy, there are a lot of Russian ancestors in my DNA :)

So while I've never been to Russia, so many of my ancestors are from there.

Hmm. In your genealogy has Russian ancestors? Guess they probably left during the revolution of 1917? Or emigrated after the 50's? Or, is it on one's mother's side? How much do you know about them?
Visit land of your ancestors never too late. :D :wink:


On my mother's side.. From an area near Minsk and in a town on the Dnebe River (I think today's Belarus?).

Well, everything depends how far this town from Minsk. Belarus quite small country. The name of the river specifically doesn't speak about anything, obviously it's some local small rivulet which even on the map difficult found. As things are now, most likely your ancestors were Belarusians though here I don't understand in what between us a difference at all, in fact we one nation, but it all the same means that in you there are Russian genes and much more than it seems to you. And your mother told something about the homeland? about the USSR? Russia? Or she was from those who hated it?
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:36 am

Well and in addition that the thread didn't grow sickly, couple of links:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/mississippi-russia-prison-population_n_6030484.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us/in-cold-war-us-spy-agencies-used-1000-nazis.html?_r=1

In hysteria round Russia already downswing, but the line of conduct probably so far remains invariable. Like, we are the bad guys and no alternative.
Here it is interesting to me, really someone in the West seriously thinks, what at us in the country may start hunger if we cease to buy absolutely food in Europe? Or what at us absolutely manufactured nothing?
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby zzyzx 2 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:07 am

agent-FSS wrote:Well, everything depends how far this town from Minsk. Belarus quite small country. The name of the river specifically doesn't speak about anything, obviously it's some local small rivulet which even on the map difficult found. As things are now, most likely your ancestors were Belarusians though here I don't understand in what between us a difference at all, in fact we one nation, but it all the same means that in you there are Russian genes and much more than it seems to you. And your mother told something about the homeland? about the USSR? Russia? Or she was from those who hated it?


Okay, my mother says her great-grandparents came from Pinsk, near Minsk, and also from Kamenetz -Podolsk near the Dnebe River during the reign of Tzar Nicholas II, in the early 20th Century. They were Jews escaping the Pogroms (погром).
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby agent-FSS » Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:39 am

zzyzx 2 wrote:
agent-FSS wrote:Well, everything depends how far this town from Minsk. Belarus quite small country. The name of the river specifically doesn't speak about anything, obviously it's some local small rivulet which even on the map difficult found. As things are now, most likely your ancestors were Belarusians though here I don't understand in what between us a difference at all, in fact we one nation, but it all the same means that in you there are Russian genes and much more than it seems to you. And your mother told something about the homeland? about the USSR? Russia? Or she was from those who hated it?


Okay, my mother says her great-grandparents came from Pinsk, near Minsk, and also from Kamenetz -Podolsk near the Dnebe River during the reign of Tzar Nicholas II, in the early 20th Century. They were Jews escaping the Pogroms (погром).

Y-yaeh, very long ago it was. If Pinsk which I managed to find near border with Ukraine, it that place, it in 125 miles (200km) from Minsk, scales of the former Russian Empire impress.

Kamenets-Podolsky it already Ukraine (if I looked for in right place) however as the world is close :D , there nearby proceeds the large river Dniester, but there is a heap of small inflows one of which can quite be river Dneb.
But I don't remember precisely, this area been included in as part of Poland at the time of Nicholas II? pogrom of Jews? Well, I can connect this events with attempt of revolution in 1905 as I remember from a school course of history though rather these events can perhaps belong to revolution 1917, nature of emigration was simply catastrophic, anyway all areas of East Poland and the Western Ukraine were quite poor at all times, in hands of Armenians and Jews as far as I heard were all money and factorys, perhaps it caused extreme degree of discontent of the population.
Ah, Symon Petliura - he was rare bastard and unfortunately now in Ukraine appear more and more people who may start calling this man like hero :( .
In any case it's was very horrible events. I always resented manifestations the religious and racial violence.

Your mother is still alive?
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Re: Russian hunger pangs

Postby zzyzx 2 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:51 pm

Yes, she is. Thank you for asking. She also says that the name of the little town the family was from that was near Pinsk was called Goradaya (spelling?).

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