Virginia Tech Students asking to bring justice to the media!

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Virginia Tech Students asking to bring justice to the media!

Postby jjmvt84 » Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:46 pm

To whom it may concern, an appeal to Matt and Trey. We as Virginia Tech students, (just part of the world-wide college populous), know better than anybody that you both hold no reserve when it comes to taking down the media, and can think of nobody better to answer our plight, voice our true opinion, and most importantly memorialize our the fellow classmates, in true college fashion. As college students, just like anywhere else in the nation, we readily tune into South Park each weak eager to see someone voice the truth, and bring justice to the abberant things/individuals in society:

In light of yesterdays tragedies, there is a growing movement among the students here at Tech that feel the media's coverage is atrocious...no suprise! In fact, quite hurting at times, as the media and every figure portrays our school as a ghetto rather than the quaint little mountain town it is, was, and will always be. No matter the words implanted in our mouths by Katie Couric, Dr. Phil, or Larry King. This is a safe campus and the police more than adequately responded, given the grand scale of the events, which unfolded. No matter how much Oprah milks the situation for her own internal benefit, our classmates are dead, and pointing the finger will never bring them back, but their lives were readily forgotten, in exchange for a story that will pay...(the media)...Yesterday, speaking from my own experience and those around me. Yes, some of us came close to being involved or were there, but without the skip of a heartbeat the media was calling us, hounding us as to whether we felt safe, why there wasn't a lock down, and ready to contradict any word we spoke to make the story more chaotic. Here's the reality, this could have happened at any school, as it is not even readily apparent the gunman originated from the student body, and so I would like to encourage anyone who hears this from Virginia Tech or knows someone attending, or even is just pissed about the media's blatant mishandling and putting words into our mouths during interviews. Speak up! Join our fight to get our fellow slain classmates on the headlines, not Oprah, Not Dr. Phil, Not Larry King, and Not George Bush!...As I close I would like to thank all the faculty who bravely teach us, the Police who put their lives on the line everyday for us (and do a good job), and the Virginia Tech President who I'm sure is underfire as well! HOKIE PRIDE FOR ALL...MATT AND TREY PLEASE DO THIS SITUATION SOME JUSTICE!
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Postby krunchyfrogg » Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:50 pm

I hate to sound callous, but is this spam?
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Postby Thrawny » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:22 pm

This should probobly be moved to the off-topic forums. But I agreee with you. I am also a student and college and from everything I ave heard, I think overall the University gets 4 out of 5 for their reaction to what happened. This was a very extreme and unpredictable attack, one of which has never happened before.

I rarely watch TV, but I turned it on to see the coverage and I was just disgusted to hear all the reporters sensationalizing the story constantly commmenting "MORE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE". I would like to hear these people figure out a system to notify TWENTY SIX THOUSAND STUDENTS instantly of an emergency. Some don't regularly check email, some don't have cell phones.

With all the facts I heard about the orm shooting, I also would have thought it was an isolated incident. IE: ex boyfriend getting revenge and such. There was NO reason to think someone would go on a rampage and no reason to lockdown campus and cancel classes. You have no idea what a mess that would cause, especially if they have no reason to believe a massacre is about to occurr.

In the end all I can say is I am glad I don't regularly watch CNN, Fox News and such because all they have done is change their position from "a conveyor of information" to a "lets point fingers at people for not being god at stopping anything bad from happening".
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Postby ShaneHaughey » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:25 pm

The school president was caught between a rock and a hard place before the second attack. If he ordered a lock down and the shooter hadn't attacked the school, then we would all be railing against him for overreacting and shutting down a university. They did teh best they could given the circumstances.
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Postby angeldeb82 » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:33 pm

You knwo, I smell a repeat of "The Way I Am" by Eminem, where the part in the sceond verse goes like this:

When a dude's gettin' bullied and shoots up his school
And they blame it on Marilyn (on Marilyn).. and the heroin
Where were the parents at? And look where it's at
Middle America, now it's a tragedy
Now it's so sad to see, an upper class ci-ty
Havin this happenin' (this happenin')..
Then attack Eminem 'cause I rap this way (rap this way)..


First Columbine, and now Blacksburg's Virginia Tech. How tragic. :cartmancry:
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Postby ShaneHaughey » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:28 pm

Holocaust survivor saved students' lives By LAURIE COPANS, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 26 minutes ago



JERUSALEM - The e-mails from grateful students arrived soon after Liviu Librescu was shot to death, telling how the Holocaust survivor barricaded the doorway of his Virginia Tech classroom and saved their lives at the cost of his own.

Librescu, an Israeli engineering and math lecturer who survived the Nazi killings and later escaped from Communist Romania, was one of several foreign victims of Monday's shootings, which coincided with Israel's Holocaust remembrance day.

"My father blocked the doorway with his body and asked the students to flee," Librescu's son, Joe Librescu, said Tuesday in a telephone interview from his home outside Tel Aviv. "Students started opening windows and jumping out."

Joe Librescu, who studied at Virginia Tech from 1989 to 1994, said his mother received e-mails from students shortly after learning of her husband's death.

The gunman, identified as Cho Seung-Hui — a 23-year-old English major and native of South Korea — killed 32 people, then committed suicide.

Also among the victims was G.V. Loganathan, a 51-year-old engineering professor from India, his brother G.V. Palanivel said from the southern Indian state of Tamil Nadu. Peruvian student Daniel Perez Cueva, 21, was also killed while in his French class, said his mother, Betty Cueva.

Loganathan, who was born in the southern Indian city of Chennai, had been a professor at Virginia Tech since 1982.

"For us it was like an electric shock. We've totally collapsed today," his brother said. "Our parents are elderly and have broken down completely."

When Romania joined forces with Nazi Germany in World War II, the young Librescu was interned in a labor camp, and then sent along with his family and thousands of other Jews to a central ghetto in the city of Focsani, his son said. Hundreds of thousands of Romanian Jews were killed by the collaborationist regime during the war.

Librescu, who was 76 when he died, later found work at a government aerospace company. But his career was stymied in the 1970s because he refused to swear allegiance to the Communist regime, his son said, and he was later fired when he requested permission to move to Israel.

In 1977, according to his son, Israel's then-Prime Minister Menachem Begin personally intervened to get the family an emigration permit, and they left for Israel in 1978.

Librescu left Israel for Virginia in 1985 for a sabbatical year, but eventually made the move permanent, said Joe Librescu: "His work was his life in a sense."

The academic community in Romania also was mourning Librescu's death.

"It is a great loss," said Ecaterina Andronescu, rector of the Polytechnic University in Bucharest, where Librescu graduated with a degree in mechanics and aviation construction in 1953. "We have immense consideration for the way he reacted and defended his students with his life."

At the university, people placed flowers on a table holding his picture and a lit candle. "We remember him as a great specialist in aeronautics. He left behind hundreds of prestigious papers," said professor Nicolae Serban Tomescu.

Librescu, who specialized in composite structures and aeroelasticity, published extensively and received numerous awards for his work. He received a doctorate from the Bucharest-based Academy of Sciences in 1969, and an honorary degree from the Bucharest Polytechnic University in 2000.

He also received several NASA grants and taught courses at the University "La Sapienza" in Rome and at the Tel Aviv University in Israel.
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Postby Stanley_Marsh109 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:15 am

The problem with the media is that they really don't give a damn about people. All they care about is getting the big scoop and throwing their own distorted perspective in peoples' faces.

In any case, we need to work out procedures to keep a disaster like this from happening again.

BTW, my condolences to all that lost their lives yesterday, and their loved ones as well.
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Postby hainted » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:41 am

All I can say is SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE SHOT THAT FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You would think that somewhere between his first shooting,his 2 hour break for brunch at IHOP,and his return from brunch to kill 30 more people that someone somewhere should have shot the motherfucker.And if someone had then maybe a few more people would still be alive today.Maybe they could've have got him really early on and saved 20 or 30 people's lives.

You know,maybe at some point the cops show up with their dogs and they have their guns drawn and they have the dogs sniff the fucker out and then BLAMMO!

It could have been alot less tragic.

Instead of a massacre the headlines could have been: "dildo kills 2 and then kills himself by cop",etc.
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Re: Virginia Tech Students asking to bring justice to the me

Postby Robbert123 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:06 pm

jjmvt84 wrote:To whom it may concern, an appeal to Matt and Trey. We as Virginia Tech students, (just part of the world-wide college populous), know better than anybody that you both hold no reserve when it comes to taking down the media, and can think of nobody better to answer our plight, voice our true opinion, and most importantly memorialize our the fellow classmates, in true college fashion. As college students, just like anywhere else in the nation, we readily tune into South Park each weak eager to see someone voice the truth, and bring justice to the abberant things/individuals in society:

In light of yesterdays tragedies, there is a growing movement among the students here at Tech that feel the media's coverage is atrocious...no suprise! In fact, quite hurting at times, as the media and every figure portrays our school as a ghetto rather than the quaint little mountain town it is, was, and will always be. No matter the words implanted in our mouths by Katie Couric, Dr. Phil, or Larry King. This is a safe campus and the police more than adequately responded, given the grand scale of the events, which unfolded. No matter how much Oprah milks the situation for her own internal benefit, our classmates are dead, and pointing the finger will never bring them back, but their lives were readily forgotten, in exchange for a story that will pay...(the media)...Yesterday, speaking from my own experience and those around me. Yes, some of us came close to being involved or were there, but without the skip of a heartbeat the media was calling us, hounding us as to whether we felt safe, why there wasn't a lock down, and ready to contradict any word we spoke to make the story more chaotic. Here's the reality, this could have happened at any school, as it is not even readily apparent the gunman originated from the student body, and so I would like to encourage anyone who hears this from Virginia Tech or knows someone attending, or even is just pissed about the media's blatant mishandling and putting words into our mouths during interviews. Speak up! Join our fight to get our fellow slain classmates on the headlines, not Oprah, Not Dr. Phil, Not Larry King, and Not George Bush!...As I close I would like to thank all the faculty who bravely teach us, the Police who put their lives on the line everyday for us (and do a good job), and the Virginia Tech President who I'm sure is underfire as well! HOKIE PRIDE FOR ALL...MATT AND TREY PLEASE DO THIS SITUATION SOME JUSTICE!


We can not blame the media fore reporting the news, but the way they do it makes me sick in my stomick. It is like any other entertainment industry, only with a sause of ‘serieusness’. Another problem is that other countries totaly rely on channels like CNN and NBC. They simply don 't have the money do get all the coverage themselfs except fore Al Jazeera who is bigger than all the American news stations together. So in my country their is a shift to cover more lokal news instead of world events. But who the hell cares abouth some local drug dealer getting busted? The 8 o’clock news and background news coverage are still the best watched programs but leaving out more and more world events is like not seeing the whole map.
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Postby maddjuro » Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:54 pm

well something similar happened in germany a few years ago. there the case was that a teacher fluncked a student and he too revenge on everyone. and it happened in hi-school.
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Postby triplemultiplex » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:45 pm

Do I have to repeat my rant about how I saw a cable news channel interviewing the gunman's MAILMAN? It sounds like a bad joke, but I swear it happened. Fantastic job, media whores.
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Postby ShaneHaughey » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:05 pm

hainted wrote:All I can say is SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE SHOT THAT FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You would think that somewhere between his first shooting,his 2 hour break for brunch at IHOP,and his return from brunch to kill 30 more people that someone somewhere should have shot the motherfucker.And if someone had then maybe a few more people would still be alive today.Maybe they could've have got him really early on and saved 20 or 30 people's lives.

You know,maybe at some point the cops show up with their dogs and they have their guns drawn and they have the dogs sniff the fucker out and then BLAMMO!

It could have been alot less tragic.

Instead of a massacre the headlines could have been: "dildo kills 2 and then kills himself by cop",etc.


It's harder than you think to get to the scene of a crime, collect evidence, and start the search for the killer, especially if no one knows who it is.
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Postby Robbert123 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:56 pm

Today four bomb attacks killed 183 people in Iraq, including children. The Lancet ( the world’s leading indepented medical journal) published a study online made by the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health stating that 1 in 40 of the entire population of Iraq has been killed after its invasion 4 years ago. That’s 666000 peope!
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Postby ShaneHaughey » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:59 pm

Robbert123 wrote:Today four bomb attacks killed 183 people in Iraq, including children. The Lancet ( the world’s leading indepented medical journal) published a study online made by the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health stating that 1 in 40 of the entire population of Iraq has been killed after its invasion 4 years ago. That’s 666000 peope!


Not exact, but close. But, before we turn this into the Iraq thread(Where I could debunk the base: America is evil!!1 arguments in like four seconds) your opinions on the VTech shootings, one who spammed my topics asking if I watch teh news?
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Postby Aym_Dand » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:54 pm

There is no justice to be had here.

As for the media, they were just trying to report the story. I didn't get the impression that they were presenting VT as anything other than a medium-sized college where a very sad and frustrating event happened. I saw very little evidence of them depicting Blacksburg as a hick-y place.

I read a story earlier that talked about how VT's on-campus gun-ban probably aided this MF'er in his spree, but even if there were some armed students/faculty on campus, there still would have been a tragedy.

I guess the thing that I'm most sick about all of this, besides the loss of innocent life and the fact that there can be no justice in this shituation, is that the MF'er had to go to the engineering school. VT has some of the brightest engineering students in the country, and we lost 32 of them in one afternoon. America and humanity need engineers way more than it needs sh*tty writers and English majors. Some very smart, very talented people were killed the other day, and there is no justice. There is no lesson to be learned.

These are the times we live in. Our tools are capable of so much good and so much evil. It's always a contemptible shame when someone takes a technology he could never have invented himself, and uses it to kill the very people who very well could have. There's a sick irony there.

Let this be a lesson for us to try to reach out to the people who creep us out. Obviously leaving loners alone yields only tragedy after a time.
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