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SuperMaids
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Postby SuperMaids » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:51 am

I'm not talking about Christians, whom I have upmost respect for.
I'm bashing the Christian/ evangelical right, who only follow the parts of the Bible that help their political careers. Take a look at the following Christian right groups to get a picture of what I mean;
http://www.capalert.com/capreports/southpark.htm
http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/index.html
http://www.godhatesgoths.com/
http://www.truechristian.com/rohdeletters.html

And before you ask, I'm not an athiest at all. I just hate the way some people manipulate religion to get their message to those fools that never doubt the bible is the literal word of G-d, despite every phrases many posible alternate meanings (shoen by pretty much every preacher since jesus himself).
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Postby Edduyasha » Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:08 am

^ I understand what you mean there... I had this huge rant quite a while ago about the CapAlert whatever-the-Hell thing myself...perhaps I should post it here? Anyways, yeah, some things you can't take literally... For example, most people don't have the money to buy livestock for sacrifices nowadays, and people probably aren't thrown out of town for a skin condition...

SuperMaids wrote:I just hate the way some people manipulate religion to get their message to those fools that never doubt the bible is the literal word of G-d, despite every phrases many posible alternate meanings (shoen by pretty much every preacher since jesus himself)


I agree wholly right there.
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Postby Edduyasha » Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:29 am

"Who made you God/We're not all hardcore/Expand your horizons and get over yourself" Rant (or the huge-a*s rant I mentioned in my post before):

As above mentioned, I've developed an intrest in South Park, especially in the movie. Now, I was looking for a few reference screenshots for a little more fanart I was going to do, and I came across this website: "CapAlert" or something like that . This website in a nutshell is a site devoted to "protect kids from bad movies/inform parents/etc." Yeah, right. My rant is...

1. Who died and made your organization God?

- Seriously, you people piss me off. You act as if you have the final word on what people can or cannot watch on TV and stuff. First of all, you aren't. People can watch whatever they please. Heck, there are "worse" movies out there than "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut"; the South Park movie was only rated R. Have you people forgotten what the NC-17 rating means? Or, are you too timid to expand your knowledge on media in general? Point being, you can't decide for others what is okay and not okay to watch.

2. We're not all hardcore Christians, mind you.

- Look here. This is coming from a fellow Christian. Not all of us are hardcore like you people. Some of us like to let loose a little bit. I mean, what's the fun in life if you can't joke around a little? If we took everything seriously, we'd all die of stress in about a month because we live with other people. Furthermore, I take it that you're the type who will shove Bibles in random peoples' faces and preach eternal damnation rather than the salvation of Jesus. I get the gist that you're the ones scaring people away from Christianity. Well, maybe you ought to realize that some people believe the same exact thing as you, but these people have lives.

3. We're not retarded, m'kay?

- First of all, you'd have to be living under a rock (pretty much) if you haven't ever heard of "South Park". Yes, it is a cartoon, but it's aimed at teenagers and older viewers. Any parent with common sense wouldn't show anything South Park related to their children until their coming of age. In addition, anyone with common sense would know that it's supposed to be a comedy; most (if not all) of it is a joke. It's not supposed to be taken seriously. It's just pure common sense. What is there to figure out? Perhaps, you should try to figure out that not all people are raised as innocent little freaks who know nothing at all.

4. If you don't like it, don't watch it. It's not that hard.

- Again, this is common sense. If you don't like the movie's content, then don't watch it. It's not that hard. Even if you did try to pull the movie from store shelves, what good would that do? (I get the feeling that you're the ones against "Harry Potter" and such, even if it's just fiction.) There's something called bootleg movies, YouTube, and Google. It's too bad that you hate every "bad" movie, but you're going to have to live with it.

5. Get over yourselves.

- In your review, it was written that: "In the months that followed our posting of this analysis report we received thousands of emails from adolescents who have seen this movie and spoke just like it. With the same or more severe level of contempt for wholesome and righteous ethics. I would post examples of their email here but most of them would look like "You --- ---, ---. You are a --- and a ---. Go --- ---. And see who cares about your --- ---, you --- --- sorry --- --- --- ---. --- my ---. And Satan's, too, you --- uncle ---- donkey ---." Just like South "Puke": Bigger, Longer, and Uncut. And some people actually believe movies do not influence kids." Well, excuse me. I am an adolecent, too, and did I go off and use swear words every two words? I think not. Not all teenagers are foul-mouthed brats like you portray here. By the way, calling names isn't going to help your image, at least to my like-minded bretheren.

6. All teenagers and their intrests are not evil

- Not everything related to teenage doings and humor is evil. Take for example, metal music. It's portrayed as "Satanic" and such...but have you ever thought of the (obscure) branch of metal music? Yes, there are Christian metal bands out there (ex: Underoath). Just because music has heavy guitar riffs and driving drumlines doesn't mean it's Satanic, mind you. I'll leave music and everything else to another rant for another time; point being, you people need to expand your horizons and lighten up.

// Edduyasha over and out.
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Postby SuperMaids » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:18 am

Maybee you should've posted that in a new thread about the CAPalert people, as there doesn't seem to be one, and that hilariously bad SP review of theirs ("he sets his anal excetion aflame!") and their listing of Forrest Gump as a gay love story ("males without shirts mean gay sex!"), Pinochio as black magic ("they wish upon a star! must be the star of David! Help! The evil J00s are trying to steal our kids souls again!") and the listing of Children of the Corn as child porn ("it has kids in it and that turns me on so it must turn any other streight, non peaodophilic man on!") all say we need a thread for them THIS badly.
I like the way you argued sensibly with them, unlike the trolls they are, but have you found a way of getting a response?
I tried pretending I was a Christian with "concerns" about the organisation (old troll tactic) but it failed miserably, and after three sizable letters (about their religious views, about their judgmentalism and about Pinochio/ how they never look at the whole film but take it scene by scene, which if we did with the Bible would end up producing their worst rating ever!) but they totally blanked me.
I then tried a harder tactic, saying they'd offended me and pointing out that they could offend some of Christ's teachings by claiming to have figured out G-d's will (incidentally identicle to their own) by bypassing all words written in Job and most of Romans.
Finally I resorted to banal insults for which I can thank all the flamewars Nommel and CTE initiated on this site for. To this, he actually responded! By saying how dumb I was!
I wonder why I sounded dumb; was it the misquoating of my insults, the silence-led goading to act like an angry kid or the ignorance of any sensible post I'd made?
Anyway, this thread is SO dead!
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Postby Edduyasha » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:22 am

SuperMaids wrote:Maybee you should've posted that in a new thread about the CAPalert people, as there doesn't seem to be one, and that hilariously bad SP review of theirs ("he sets his anal excetion aflame!") and their listing of Forrest Gump as a gay love story ("males without shirts mean gay sex!"), Pinochio as black magic ("they wish upon a star! must be the star of David! Help! The evil J00s are trying to steal our kids souls again!") and the listing of Children of the Corn as child porn ("it has kids in it and that turns me on so it must turn any other streight, non peaodophilic man on!") all say we need a thread for them THIS badly.
I like the way you argued sensibly with them, unlike the trolls they are, but have you found a way of getting a response?
I tried pretending I was a Christian with "concerns" about the organisation (old troll tactic) but it failed miserably, and after three sizable letters (about their religious views, about their judgmentalism and about Pinochio/ how they never look at the whole film but take it scene by scene, which if we did with the Bible would end up producing their worst rating ever!) but they totally blanked me.
I then tried a harder tactic, saying they'd offended me and pointing out that they could offend some of Christ's teachings by claiming to have figured out G-d's will (incidentally identicle to their own) by bypassing all words written in Job and most of Romans.
Finally I resorted to banal insults for which I can thank all the flamewars Nommel and CTE initiated on this site for. To this, he actually responded! By saying how dumb I was!
I wonder why I sounded dumb; was it the misquoating of my insults, the silence-led goading to act like an angry kid or the ignorance of any sensible post I'd made?
Anyway, this thread is SO dead!


Perhaps... I just hate how people freak out just because something is controversial. When I sent them that, they brushed me off as something like a "heretic"...

Stupid people...

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Goodbye, all you people
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Postby SuperMaids » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:35 am

Check their essays on religious matters; far funnier than their film reviews.
Especially when they say the hexagram AKA. star of David is the symbol of THE DEVIL'S CHOSEN PEOPLE!!!1!!!
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Postby Edduyasha » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:39 am

SuperMaids wrote:Check their essays on religious matters; far funnier than their film reviews.
Especially when they say the hexagram AKA. star of David is the symbol of THE DEVIL'S CHOSEN PEOPLE!!!1!!!


What the Hell have they been reading?! Straight from the Bible, it states that the Jews are God's chosen people (even though they've been quite disobedient enough)...

:roll:

Maybe I should take my rant into the "Things that piss you off" thread...

:wink:
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Goodbye, all you people
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Goodbye...


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Postby SuperMaids » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:00 am

Edduyasha wrote: What the Hell have they been reading?! Straight from the Bible, it states that the Jews are God's chosen people (even though they've been quite disobedient enough)...


I let them off because (i assume) they read an early Latin version of the Bible.
And I assume they don't know any Latin, from the amount of Bible they seem to ignore.
It's like they only know one like ("tis better to throw a milstone round your neck than corrupt the little ones") which they misinterpret and mistranslate beyonde belief.

Edduyasha wrote:Maybe I should take my rant into the "Things that piss you off" thread...


But yeah, these guys PISS me off, just like all these self professed 'religious' people who deliberatly misinterprit their own faith to trick others into doing what they want.

The essay about who to HATE was another SP level feat of funny; did you know any man that wears a scaf in winter is a PEODOPHILE?
Or that women with cats who like wearing skimpy clothing are the sex slaves of SATAN?
Or that liberals are THE DEVIL because they're hippies! And we all hate hippies don't we :roll:
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Postby Edduyasha » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:13 am

SuperMaids wrote:
Edduyasha wrote: What the Hell have they been reading?! Straight from the Bible, it states that the Jews are God's chosen people (even though they've been quite disobedient enough)...


I let them off because (i assume) they read an early Latin version of the Bible.
And I assume they don't know any Latin, from the amount of Bible they seem to ignore.
It's like they only know one like ("tis better to throw a milstone round your neck than corrupt the little ones") which they misinterpret and mistranslate beyonde belief.

Edduyasha wrote:Maybe I should take my rant into the "Things that piss you off" thread...


But yeah, these guys PISS me off, just like all these self professed 'religious' people who deliberatly misinterprit their own faith to trick others into doing what they want.

The essay about who to HATE was another SP level feat of funny; did you know any man that wears a scaf in winter is a PEODOPHILE?
Or that women with cats who like wearing skimpy clothing are the sex slaves of SATAN?
Or that liberals are THE DEVIL because they're hippies! And we all hate hippies don't we :roll:


Yeah, let's take this over to the other thread...

Copy-pastia the post!

Anyways...before we head over there, yeah, these people are donkey-raping s*it-eaters, to put in common terms. I wonder what kinds of bulls*it they have to say about ALL (because they can't tell a f*cking lamp from a tree) punks and metalheads...

Worst of all, did you notice the end of every page was "In the name of Jesus/God"? Well, what?! I tell you, they're trying to BE God?! So much for being Christians...so much for following Jesus... First Commandment said: "Do not have any other gods before Me".

:roll:

Edit: This would make a good stand-alone thread, I'll go put the rant in Off-Topic Discussion for all the BBS forum-goers to see...
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Postby Lord Dunderhead » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:30 am

I took the second test, seems I identify very well with Gandhi lol.
Jack your stepping on a land mine...
So?
Just checking.
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Postby Kyle the Skeptic » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:37 pm

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised to see how many people ended up in the lower left quadrant of the chart. Haven't seen any authoritarians in here yet though, and I suppose that's a good thing.
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Postby Edduyasha » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:44 pm

Kyle the Skeptic wrote:Yeah, I'm a bit surprised to see how many people ended up in the lower left quadrant of the chart. Haven't seen any authoritarians in here yet though, and I suppose that's a good thing.


I'd bet LA_KING or whatever the Hell he goes by now would fit in that quadrant...but whatever. He's an a*s anyhow.

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Postby SuperMaids » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:49 am

Is this test even fair; it's basically telling us we're all comunists.
Anyone been classed as a committed capitolist (upper right) or an anarchist (bottom right) yet?
Edduyasha wrote: Kyle the Skeptic wrote:
Yeah, I'm a bit surprised to see how many people ended up in the lower left quadrant of the chart. Haven't seen any authoritarians in here yet though, and I suppose that's a good thing.


I'd bet LA_KING or whatever the Hell he goes by now would fit in that quadrant...but whatever. He's an a*s anyhow.


Maybee the fact that they're so politically outnumbered here is what makes authoritarians turn troll?
Or maybee we just call them trolls because they have different political beliefs from us (and linguistic beliefs, and etiqute beliefs, and gramatical beliefs and...)?
Nah, it's just that these bastards are trolls by nature. You have to be one to get an authoritarian lable from any test!
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Postby Edduyasha » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:55 am

SuperMaids wrote:Is this test even fair; it's basically telling us we're all comunists.
Anyone been classed as a committed capitolist (upper right) or an anarchist (bottom right) yet?
Edduyasha wrote: Kyle the Skeptic wrote:
Yeah, I'm a bit surprised to see how many people ended up in the lower left quadrant of the chart. Haven't seen any authoritarians in here yet though, and I suppose that's a good thing.


I'd bet LA_KING or whatever the Hell he goes by now would fit in that quadrant...but whatever. He's an a*s anyhow.


Maybee the fact that they're so politically outnumbered here is what makes authoritarians turn troll?
Or maybee we just call them trolls because they have different political beliefs from us (and linguistic beliefs, and etiqute beliefs, and gramatical beliefs and...)?
Nah, it's just that these bastards are trolls by nature. You have to be one to get an authoritarian lable from any test!


Yeah...I guess...

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Postby Zubby » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:24 am

That quiz was created by Libertarians. I've seen it many times in paper form.
I took it online, and I was not surprised to see that it listed me as a liberal.
I'm pretty much to the left of people who claim to be liberal-I'm uberliberal.
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