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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby BG41 » Tue May 04, 2010 6:43 am

triplemultiplex wrote :
> The law is over reaching big time here. It's nothing more than an excuse
> for racist cops to legally harass Latinos. If this is not the purpose,
> then the law is completely unnecessary. State & local police already
> have the ability to turn over any individual they've apprehended for other
> offenses to the INS for processing if they're here illegally. Now they
> don't need any pretense other than "they look illegal".

You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily Show and Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the NEWS!!

First off, NO ONE can be stopped and asked to present their papers. Thats a lie told by douchebag liberals. Its not true.

Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they are being investigated for another offense. PERIOD!

So say cops pull over a van load FULL (15 - 20) of Mexican going 55MPH in a 30 zone. So you are saying after issuing a ticket, they should not be able to say to the DRIVER, "Do you have your immigration papers?" You know, the papers immigrants have been REQUIRED to have with them anytime they go out since the 1940s!!!! Its a FEDERAL LAW!!! Oh and the cop can only question the DRIVER, no one else!! Unless they do something that violates another law. Like pull a gun and shoot. You know like the Mexican gang that shot a cop today, because he found them smuggling drugs....


If you want to argue this case with FACTS, then you should state that Immigration policy is a Federal deal. You know... its written in the Constitution!!

So stop the fear mongering, get the facts. Speak with reason, not left socialist wing talking points.

Do you care to tell me the immigration policy of Mexico? Or how much money illegal aliens cost taxpayers? Or do you not feel comfortable with arguing facts?
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby M00ndragon69 » Tue May 04, 2010 7:37 am

If the people who are asked to present papers are asked when in trouble for other offenses, I have no problem with that rule. I am not racist, but I can see where illegal immigration is a problem..You see it around where I live. If someone wants to move from Mexico ( or any other country) to the US, it is only fair that they do it the legal way. And, yes, I realize many people who come here illegally have things bad in their countries, and I do have compassion about that, but the fact is that if too many people come here illegally and get jobs, it is going to take jobs away from legal citizens, and this economy sucks. Some people, who were born in the US, would be happy to have a low paying job that might go to an illegal alien, because well, they have to pay the rent some way. And, some people who are here illegally might have committed crimes in the countries they came from, and depending on how serious the crime was, that could create problems here.

Now, if the law was that anyone who is Latino could be harrassed for papers by the cops, I would be against it. Some cops are pigs, they harrass certain people for the f*ck of it. I lived in a town that was famous for those kind of cops at one point. One night one pulled me over for no reason. I was driving out to Denny's for coffee with friends at midnight, and the pig decides to pull me over and look at my license. f*ck him, I wasn't doing anything illegal, I have the right to be out on the road as late as I f*cking want.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Wii fit man » Tue May 04, 2010 7:29 pm

BG41 wrote :
> triplemultiplex wrote :
> > The law is over reaching big time here. It's nothing more than an excuse
> > for racist cops to legally harass Latinos. If this is not the purpose,
> > then the law is completely unnecessary. State & local police already
> > have the ability to turn over any individual they've apprehended for other
> > offenses to the INS for processing if they're here illegally. Now they
> > don't need any pretense other than "they look illegal".
>
> You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily Show and
> Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the NEWS!!
>
> First off, NO ONE can be stopped and asked to present their papers. Thats a lie told
> by douchebag liberals. Its not true.
>
> Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they are being
> investigated for another offense. PERIOD!
>
> So say cops pull over a van load FULL (15 - 20) of Mexican going 55MPH in a 30 zone.
> So you are saying after issuing a ticket, they should not be able to say to the
> DRIVER, "Do you have your immigration papers?" You know, the papers
> immigrants have been REQUIRED to have with them anytime they go out since the
> 1940s!!!! Its a FEDERAL LAW!!! Oh and the cop can only question the DRIVER, no one
> else!! Unless they do something that violates another law. Like pull a gun and shoot.
> You know like the Mexican gang that shot a cop today, because he found them smuggling
> drugs....
>
>
> If you want to argue this case with FACTS, then you should state that Immigration
> policy is a Federal deal. You know... its written in the Constitution!!
>
> So stop the fear mongering, get the facts. Speak with reason, not left socialist wing
> talking points.
>
> Do you care to tell me the immigration policy of Mexico? Or how much money illegal
> aliens cost taxpayers? Or do you not feel comfortable with arguing facts?
I feel comfortable saying that you are an idiot and that you need to stop sucking George Bush's cock. "Left wing socialist talking points"? I could say "Stop spewing right wing lies you fascist retard", but would it be true?
"Fear mongering"? If you a conservative, now you're just a hypocrite.
Illegal aliens cost less to taxpayers then wars. WAY less.
And face it, that's still unfair. What does somebody speeding have to with whether they are an immigrant? NOTHING. That's just an excuse, and a really bad one. Besides, cops stop blacks all the time claiming they're speeding when they aren't, so why wouldn't they do it for Latinos?
It's not fair to be able to arrest someone because they don't have their papers. Maybe they forgot them. People are not perfect.
Retard.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby triplemultiplex » Tue May 04, 2010 10:10 pm

BG41 wrote :
> You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily Show and
> Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the NEWS!!

Daily Show is a comedy show, not a news show. And cable news is unwatchable.

> Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they are being
> investigated for another offense. PERIOD!

Then the law is redundant and unnecessary. Police already have that authority. That would mean it was only passed to score anti-immigration political points.

Arresting unlawful immigrants is not any sort of solution. All that does is clutter up the legal system and put more burden on an already overcrowded prison system. Try arresting somebody at one of the companies that keeps hiring illegal workers instead.

The other thing that irritates me about this issue is the way some keep bringing up drug trafficking and human trafficking as is if they're interchangeable with undocumented workers. It's a deliberate attempt to characterize all illegal border crossings as related to illegal drugs and sh*t. It implies that anyone here illegally, specifically anyone brown that is here illegally, is involved in the drug trade. They don't come out and say that, but every time they discuss immigration, they bring up the separate issue of drugs.

For those who care, my condensed solution:

Step 1. Fully control the border with walls, & guards.
Step 2. Amnesty for anyone who got in before the wall.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby BG41 » Sat May 08, 2010 10:10 am

Wii fit man wrote :
> BG41 wrote :
> > triplemultiplex wrote :
> > > The law is over reaching big time here. It's nothing more than an excuse
> > > for racist cops to legally harass Latinos. If this is not the purpose,
> > > then the law is completely unnecessary. State & local police already
> > > have the ability to turn over any individual they've apprehended for other
> > > offenses to the INS for processing if they're here illegally. Now they
> > > don't need any pretense other than "they look illegal".
> >
> > You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily Show and
> > Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the NEWS!!
> >
> > First off, NO ONE can be stopped and asked to present their papers. Thats a lie
> told
> > by douchebag liberals. Its not true.
> >
> > Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they are being
> > investigated for another offense. PERIOD!
> >
> > So say cops pull over a van load FULL (15 - 20) of Mexican going 55MPH in a 30
> zone.
> > So you are saying after issuing a ticket, they should not be able to say to the
> > DRIVER, "Do you have your immigration papers?" You know, the papers
> > immigrants have been REQUIRED to have with them anytime they go out since the
> > 1940s!!!! Its a FEDERAL LAW!!! Oh and the cop can only question the DRIVER, no
> one
> > else!! Unless they do something that violates another law. Like pull a gun and
> shoot.
> > You know like the Mexican gang that shot a cop today, because he found them
> smuggling
> > drugs....
> >
> >
> > If you want to argue this case with FACTS, then you should state that
> Immigration
> > policy is a Federal deal. You know... its written in the Constitution!!
> >
> > So stop the fear mongering, get the facts. Speak with reason, not left socialist
> wing
> > talking points.
> >
> > Do you care to tell me the immigration policy of Mexico? Or how much money
> illegal
> > aliens cost taxpayers? Or do you not feel comfortable with arguing facts?
> I feel comfortable saying that you are an idiot and that you need to stop sucking
> George Bush's cock. "Left wing socialist talking points"? I could say
> "Stop spewing right wing lies you fascist retard", but would it be true?
> "Fear mongering"? If you a conservative, now you're just a hypocrite.
> Illegal aliens cost less to taxpayers then wars. WAY less.
> And face it, that's still unfair. What does somebody speeding have to with whether
> they are an immigrant? NOTHING. That's just an excuse, and a really bad one. Besides,
> cops stop blacks all the time claiming they're speeding when they aren't, so why
> wouldn't they do it for Latinos?
> It's not fair to be able to arrest someone because they don't have their papers.
> Maybe they forgot them. People are not perfect.
> Retard.


Boy you really showed everyone how stupid you are. Illegals cost WAY WAY more than any of the wars we are fighting. Do research, and not media matters a-hole. You stupid douche bag pig f*cking butt licker. I never said how I am politically, you are the one tossing around socialist BS. Why dont you post the proof that cops stop black people and claim they are speeding when they are not? Post it. You cant because it doesn't exists you dumbass retarded butt monkey. Stop ridin Obamas nuts and get a damn education stupid retard.

So you have a problem with this law, but its funny how nobody has a problem profiling at airports for Muslim men.....

Everybody always gets all butt hurt over profiling when its their group. But consider this... WE ALL PROFILE. You just profiled me, linking me to George Bush based on statements I made, even though I never mentioned GB..... So you are a hypocrite. and a retard. and youre probably gay... ha ha ha.... not that i care.

If you must know, I'm libertarian..... so go f*ck yourself, as I'm sure you already are while looking at a picture of Tom Cruise. homo.

So if someone was to ran over your face with their car, and then speed off, but you see the driver and see that he is driving a black mustang, and is a white male, You are saying you would not tell the police that info because then they would be PROFILING white males in dark Mustangs.....

or say a gang of Mexican drug smugglers shoot and kill a rancher in AZ. then the cops shouldn't be looking for Mexican gang members??? And that actually happened. You are truly stupid. You fag. Retard.

Do us a favor and pick up a book fagot.


And YES it is fair to arrest someone because they broke the LAW dumbass. Its been a law for 60 years that immigrants must carry their papers. I guess it not fair to get arrested when getting pulled over and not having your licenses right. Man you are stupid. I guess the next time a cop asks me for ID, i will say Hey man, this guy on the SP board said I dont need ID, so its cool.
Why dont you try that out, turd. let me know how it turns out idiot.

We all have to carry ID, no matter the color. Everybody is profiled to a point in Law enforcement. Nobody will be getting pulled over for being brown, only if they are speeding, or shooting some one in the face. Then if they have a suspicion, they can ask for papers, so if you are Mexican, speeding in Big Rig painted primer gray, and only have a Mexican drivers licenses and dont speak English, that would be suspicious. dont u think jerkoff.


I dont agree with the law because from what I can tell, the state does not have the authority according to the constitution. Although the 10th amendment may provide the ability. But I'm sure you have never heard of the Constitution have you butt pirate.

You are so mis informed its hilarious. oh well thats what we get these days in government schools, where all you learn is, make everybody feel good, well we cant have a stable society based on emotions and feelings. The Law is the Law period. Bitch.


If you want to know my political view, ask me, dont "profile" me or i may start to cry cause its not fair.... ha ha ha, what a miserable existence you must have. You f*cking pig. f*ck off and go learn something retard.


And just so you know, my two best friends are MEXICAN!!! ahhhhh run away run away!!!!!

We are a nation of laws. If you dont want to enforce one, then lets not enforce any, so everyone feels good about themselves.

Now go back to listening to lady ga ga, let the liberals go ahead and numb you into thinking you need government to help everybody along and that you cant do anything alone. I'll be here taking personal responsibility and governing my own life. Retard.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby BG41 » Sat May 08, 2010 10:24 am

triplemultiplex wrote :
> BG41 wrote :
> > You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily Show and
> > Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the NEWS!!
>
> Daily Show is a comedy show, not a news show. And cable news is unwatchable.
>
> > Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they are being
> > investigated for another offense. PERIOD!
>
> Then the law is redundant and unnecessary. Police already have that authority. That
> would mean it was only passed to score anti-immigration political points.
>
> Arresting unlawful immigrants is not any sort of solution. All that does is clutter
> up the legal system and put more burden on an already overcrowded prison system. Try
> arresting somebody at one of the companies that keeps hiring illegal workers instead.
>
> The other thing that irritates me about this issue is the way some keep bringing up
> drug trafficking and human trafficking as is if they're interchangeable with
> undocumented workers. It's a deliberate attempt to characterize all illegal border
> crossings as related to illegal drugs and sh*t. It implies that anyone here
> illegally, specifically anyone brown that is here illegally, is involved in the drug
> trade. They don't come out and say that, but every time they discuss immigration,
> they bring up the separate issue of drugs.
>
> For those who care, my condensed solution:
>
> Step 1. Fully control the border with walls, & guards.
> Step 2. Amnesty for anyone who got in before the wall.

HA HA HA, another un informed liberal. NO the cops could NOT ask if someone was here legally, hence the law stupid.

Step ONE, build a REAL wall.

NO AMNESTY!! It was illegal for them to be here when they came, so it will be illegal for them to be here after a wall. I guess I i shoot someone in the face, before face protecting shields are made, then i should not be put in prison..... even though its illegal to shoot someone in the face...... That is your logic. Damn liberals are so f*cking stupid. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Period. You f*cking liberal dont even know the history of the liberal/democrat party. Democrats today are not the same as what they were 10 years ago, now they are Progressive Marxist. After the Progressives failed in WWII era, they took the name Liberal, even though a classic liberal is what is now called a Libertarian. You should really see how much harm the Liberal Progressive party has screwed this country but replacing Law and personal responsibility with dependence on the government for everything.

Benjamin Franklin said it best,, " The best way to get rid of poverty is to make it uncomfortable for them, and force them out of it" but the Liberal douches came along and said NO, we will tax those who actually work and give the money to people who wont, and those useful idiots will vote for the man thats giving them free stuff. This will not end well. Mark my words. You think Greece is bad..... that is nothing close to what will happen here if we dont turn this around NOW.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Jake, M'kay? » Sat May 08, 2010 5:07 pm

Guys! Guys! Maybe we should just do a la The Simpsons Movie and put a giant dome over the whole US! There, problem solved.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Wii fit man » Sat May 08, 2010 8:36 pm

BG41 wrote :
> Wii fit man wrote :
> > BG41 wrote :
> > > triplemultiplex wrote :
> > > > The law is over reaching big time here. It's nothing more than an
> excuse
> > > > for racist cops to legally harass Latinos. If this is not the
> purpose,
> > > > then the law is completely unnecessary. State & local police
> already
> > > > have the ability to turn over any individual they've apprehended for
> other
> > > > offenses to the INS for processing if they're here illegally. Now
> they
> > > > don't need any pretense other than "they look illegal".
> > >
> > > You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily Show
> and
> > > Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the
> NEWS!!
> > >
> > > First off, NO ONE can be stopped and asked to present their papers. Thats a
> lie
> > told
> > > by douchebag liberals. Its not true.
> > >
> > > Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they are
> being
> > > investigated for another offense. PERIOD!
> > >
> > > So say cops pull over a van load FULL (15 - 20) of Mexican going 55MPH in
> a 30
> > zone.
> > > So you are saying after issuing a ticket, they should not be able to say to
> the
> > > DRIVER, "Do you have your immigration papers?" You know, the
> papers
> > > immigrants have been REQUIRED to have with them anytime they go out since
> the
> > > 1940s!!!! Its a FEDERAL LAW!!! Oh and the cop can only question the
> DRIVER, no
> > one
> > > else!! Unless they do something that violates another law. Like pull a gun
> and
> > shoot.
> > > You know like the Mexican gang that shot a cop today, because he found them
> > smuggling
> > > drugs....
> > >
> > >
> > > If you want to argue this case with FACTS, then you should state that
> > Immigration
> > > policy is a Federal deal. You know... its written in the Constitution!!
> > >
> > > So stop the fear mongering, get the facts. Speak with reason, not left
> socialist
> > wing
> > > talking points.
> > >
> > > Do you care to tell me the immigration policy of Mexico? Or how much money
> > illegal
> > > aliens cost taxpayers? Or do you not feel comfortable with arguing facts?
> > I feel comfortable saying that you are an idiot and that you need to stop
> sucking
> > George Bush's cock. "Left wing socialist talking points"? I could say
> > "Stop spewing right wing lies you fascist retard", but would it be
> true?
> > "Fear mongering"? If you a conservative, now you're just a hypocrite.
> > Illegal aliens cost less to taxpayers then wars. WAY less.
> > And face it, that's still unfair. What does somebody speeding have to with
> whether
> > they are an immigrant? NOTHING. That's just an excuse, and a really bad one.
> Besides,
> > cops stop blacks all the time claiming they're speeding when they aren't, so why
> > wouldn't they do it for Latinos?
> > It's not fair to be able to arrest someone because they don't have their papers.
> > Maybe they forgot them. People are not perfect.
> > Retard.
>
>
> Boy you really showed everyone how stupid you are. Illegals cost WAY WAY more than
> any of the wars we are fighting. Do research, and not media matters a-hole. You
> stupid douche bag pig f*cking butt licker. I never said how I am politically, you
> are the one tossing around socialist BS. Why dont you post the proof that cops stop
> black people and claim they are speeding when they are not? Post it. You cant because
> it doesn't exists you dumbass retarded butt monkey. Stop ridin Obamas nuts and get a
> damn education stupid retard.
>
> So you have a problem with this law, but its funny how nobody has a problem profiling
> at airports for Muslim men.....
>
> Everybody always gets all butt hurt over profiling when its their group. But consider
> this... WE ALL PROFILE. You just profiled me, linking me to George Bush based on
> statements I made, even though I never mentioned GB..... So you are a hypocrite. and
> a retard. and youre probably gay... ha ha ha.... not that i care.
>
> If you must know, I'm libertarian..... so go f*ck yourself, as I'm sure you already
> are while looking at a picture of Tom Cruise. homo.
>
> So if someone was to ran over your face with their car, and then speed off, but you
> see the driver and see that he is driving a black mustang, and is a white male, You
> are saying you would not tell the police that info because then they would be
> PROFILING white males in dark Mustangs.....
>
> or say a gang of Mexican drug smugglers shoot and kill a rancher in AZ. then the cops
> shouldn't be looking for Mexican gang members??? And that actually happened. You are
> truly stupid. You fag. Retard.
>
> Do us a favor and pick up a book fagot.
>
>
> And YES it is fair to arrest someone because they broke the LAW dumbass. Its been a
> law for 60 years that immigrants must carry their papers. I guess it not fair to get
> arrested when getting pulled over and not having your licenses right. Man you are
> stupid. I guess the next time a cop asks me for ID, i will say Hey man, this guy on
> the SP board said I dont need ID, so its cool.
> Why dont you try that out, turd. let me know how it turns out idiot.
>
> We all have to carry ID, no matter the color. Everybody is profiled to a point in Law
> enforcement. Nobody will be getting pulled over for being brown, only if they are
> speeding, or shooting some one in the face. Then if they have a suspicion, they can
> ask for papers, so if you are Mexican, speeding in Big Rig painted primer gray, and
> only have a Mexican drivers licenses and dont speak English, that would be
> suspicious. dont u think jerkoff.
>
>
> I dont agree with the law because from what I can tell, the state does not have the
> authority according to the constitution. Although the 10th amendment may provide the
> ability. But I'm sure you have never heard of the Constitution have you butt pirate.
>
> You are so mis informed its hilarious. oh well thats what we get these days in
> government schools, where all you learn is, make everybody feel good, well we cant
> have a stable society based on emotions and feelings. The Law is the Law period.
> Bitch.
>
>
> If you want to know my political view, ask me, dont "profile" me or i may
> start to cry cause its not fair.... ha ha ha, what a miserable existence you must
> have. You f*cking pig. f*ck off and go learn something retard.
>
>
> And just so you know, my two best friends are MEXICAN!!! ahhhhh run away run
> away!!!!!
>
> We are a nation of laws. If you dont want to enforce one, then lets not enforce any,
> so everyone feels good about themselves.
>
> Now go back to listening to lady ga ga, let the liberals go ahead and numb you into
> thinking you need government to help everybody along and that you cant do anything
> alone. I'll be here taking personal responsibility and governing my own life.
> Retard.
Wow. You called me stupid, but your grammar sucks.
It's kind of funny that you resort to calling me stupid names. I AM a homo, yes! VERY GOOD! Have a sticker. You can't really say that like an insult. I couldn't even read your whole post, because it was so filled with stupid stereotyping and horrible grammar that it hurt my eyes.

Your post is invalid. Thank you for using Wii fit man.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Wii fit man » Sat May 08, 2010 8:37 pm

BG41 wrote :
> triplemultiplex wrote :
> > BG41 wrote :
> > > You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily Show
> and
> > > Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the
> NEWS!!
> >
> > Daily Show is a comedy show, not a news show. And cable news is unwatchable.
> >
> > > Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they are
> being
> > > investigated for another offense. PERIOD!
> >
> > Then the law is redundant and unnecessary. Police already have that authority.
> That
> > would mean it was only passed to score anti-immigration political points.
> >
> > Arresting unlawful immigrants is not any sort of solution. All that does is
> clutter
> > up the legal system and put more burden on an already overcrowded prison system.
> Try
> > arresting somebody at one of the companies that keeps hiring illegal workers
> instead.
> >
> > The other thing that irritates me about this issue is the way some keep bringing
> up
> > drug trafficking and human trafficking as is if they're interchangeable with
> > undocumented workers. It's a deliberate attempt to characterize all illegal
> border
> > crossings as related to illegal drugs and sh*t. It implies that anyone here
> > illegally, specifically anyone brown that is here illegally, is involved in the
> drug
> > trade. They don't come out and say that, but every time they discuss
> immigration,
> > they bring up the separate issue of drugs.
> >
> > For those who care, my condensed solution:
> >
> > Step 1. Fully control the border with walls, & guards.
> > Step 2. Amnesty for anyone who got in before the wall.
>
> HA HA HA, another un informed liberal. NO the cops could NOT ask if someone was here
> legally, hence the law stupid.
>
> Step ONE, build a REAL wall.
>
> NO AMNESTY!! It was illegal for them to be here when they came, so it will be illegal
> for them to be here after a wall. I guess I i shoot someone in the face, before face
> protecting shields are made, then i should not be put in prison..... even though its
> illegal to shoot someone in the face...... That is your logic. Damn liberals are so
> f*cking stupid. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Period. You f*cking liberal dont
> even know the history of the liberal/democrat party. Democrats today are not the same
> as what they were 10 years ago, now they are Progressive Marxist. After the
> Progressives failed in WWII era, they took the name Liberal, even though a classic
> liberal is what is now called a Libertarian. You should really see how much harm the
> Liberal Progressive party has screwed this country but replacing Law and personal
> responsibility with dependence on the government for everything.
>
> Benjamin Franklin said it best,, " The best way to get rid of poverty is to make
> it uncomfortable for them, and force them out of it" but the Liberal douches
> came along and said NO, we will tax those who actually work and give the money to
> people who wont, and those useful idiots will vote for the man thats giving them free
> stuff. This will not end well. Mark my words. You think Greece is bad..... that is
> nothing close to what will happen here if we dont turn this around NOW.
If you're not a conservative, you sure act like one.. .Or are you a "Glenn Beck libertarian"?
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Just_Jackie » Sat May 08, 2010 9:58 pm

As someone who lives in an area where illegal immigration is a huge issue, I'm not prepared to pass judgment on Arizona for doing what they have to do to protect themselves from a problem. Businesses such as Planned Parenthood, health clinics and charities are closing here all the time as a result of people who are using these services, not paying for them and aren't even paying into the system. They don't own property (in Texas, property taxes fund public schools) but they send their children to the schools...usually on free breakfast/lunch programs.

It's very easy to look at things from a "human rights" issue when you consider that these immigrants come from a poor country, but what about all the tax paying Americans who can't use Planned Parenthood now because of people who have no legal right to be here?

Look at the disasters that are Medicade and Medicare. We can't even take care of ourselves, let alone taking on Mexico's problems.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Your Moms Fav Person » Sat May 08, 2010 10:23 pm

BG41 dude...wow...I'm not even going to try......
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Kensuke » Sat May 08, 2010 11:12 pm

How come no one can have a civilized debate anymore? Everyone has valid points, but the name-calling and personal attacks are just childish.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby Your Moms Fav Person » Sat May 08, 2010 11:21 pm

Kensuke wrote :
> How come no one can have a civilized debate anymore? Everyone has valid
> points, but the name-calling and personal attacks are just childish.
Seriously, it's like an episode of Maury
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby BG41 » Mon May 10, 2010 3:32 am

Your Moms Fav Person wrote :
> BG41 dude...wow...I'm not even going to try......
Thats ok, you mom did last night......

And by that mean I made the whore clean my house and suck me off. ha ha, f*ck you. "Im not even going to try" classic, thats because you cant. Go back to highschool, stupid kids posting here thinking they know what real life is, geez. Once you pay taxes get back to me dildo licker.
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Re: Shakira Criticizes Arizona?

Postby BG41 » Mon May 10, 2010 3:40 am

Wii fit man wrote :
> BG41 wrote :
> > Wii fit man wrote :
> > > BG41 wrote :
> > > > triplemultiplex wrote :
> > > > > The law is over reaching big time here. It's nothing more than
> an
> > excuse
> > > > > for racist cops to legally harass Latinos. If this is not the
> > purpose,
> > > > > then the law is completely unnecessary. State & local police
> > already
> > > > > have the ability to turn over any individual they've apprehended
> for
> > other
> > > > > offenses to the INS for processing if they're here illegally.
> Now
> > they
> > > > > don't need any pretense other than "they look illegal".
> > > >
> > > > You obvioulsy dont know whats in the bill. Stop watching the Daily
> Show
> > and
> > > > Olbermann and watch a real news shows where they actually tell you the
> > NEWS!!
> > > >
> > > > First off, NO ONE can be stopped and asked to present their papers.
> Thats a
> > lie
> > > told
> > > > by douchebag liberals. Its not true.
> > > >
> > > > Someone can ONLY be asked to show proof they are here LEGALLY if they
> are
> > being
> > > > investigated for another offense. PERIOD!
> > > >
> > > > So say cops pull over a van load FULL (15 - 20) of Mexican going
> 55MPH in
> > a 30
> > > zone.
> > > > So you are saying after issuing a ticket, they should not be able to
> say to
> > the
> > > > DRIVER, "Do you have your immigration papers?" You know, the
> > papers
> > > > immigrants have been REQUIRED to have with them anytime they go out
> since
> > the
> > > > 1940s!!!! Its a FEDERAL LAW!!! Oh and the cop can only question the
> > DRIVER, no
> > > one
> > > > else!! Unless they do something that violates another law. Like pull a
> gun
> > and
> > > shoot.
> > > > You know like the Mexican gang that shot a cop today, because he found
> them
> > > smuggling
> > > > drugs....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you want to argue this case with FACTS, then you should state that
> > > Immigration
> > > > policy is a Federal deal. You know... its written in the
> Constitution!!
> > > >
> > > > So stop the fear mongering, get the facts. Speak with reason, not left
> > socialist
> > > wing
> > > > talking points.
> > > >
> > > > Do you care to tell me the immigration policy of Mexico? Or how much
> money
> > > illegal
> > > > aliens cost taxpayers? Or do you not feel comfortable with arguing
> facts?
> > > I feel comfortable saying that you are an idiot and that you need to stop
> > sucking
> > > George Bush's cock. "Left wing socialist talking points"? I could
> say
> > > "Stop spewing right wing lies you fascist retard", but would it
> be
> > true?
> > > "Fear mongering"? If you a conservative, now you're just a
> hypocrite.
> > > Illegal aliens cost less to taxpayers then wars. WAY less.
> > > And face it, that's still unfair. What does somebody speeding have to with
> > whether
> > > they are an immigrant? NOTHING. That's just an excuse, and a really bad
> one.
> > Besides,
> > > cops stop blacks all the time claiming they're speeding when they aren't,
> so why
> > > wouldn't they do it for Latinos?
> > > It's not fair to be able to arrest someone because they don't have their
> papers.
> > > Maybe they forgot them. People are not perfect.
> > > Retard.
> >
> >
> > Boy you really showed everyone how stupid you are. Illegals cost WAY WAY more
> than
> > any of the wars we are fighting. Do research, and not media matters a-hole. You
> > stupid douche bag pig f*cking butt licker. I never said how I am politically,
> you
> > are the one tossing around socialist BS. Why dont you post the proof that cops
> stop
> > black people and claim they are speeding when they are not? Post it. You cant
> because
> > it doesn't exists you dumbass retarded butt monkey. Stop ridin Obamas nuts and
> get a
> > damn education stupid retard.
> >
> > So you have a problem with this law, but its funny how nobody has a problem
> profiling
> > at airports for Muslim men.....
> >
> > Everybody always gets all butt hurt over profiling when its their group. But
> consider
> > this... WE ALL PROFILE. You just profiled me, linking me to George Bush based on
> > statements I made, even though I never mentioned GB..... So you are a hypocrite.
> and
> > a retard. and youre probably gay... ha ha ha.... not that i care.
> >
> > If you must know, I'm libertarian..... so go f*ck yourself, as I'm sure you
> already
> > are while looking at a picture of Tom Cruise. homo.
> >
> > So if someone was to ran over your face with their car, and then speed off, but
> you
> > see the driver and see that he is driving a black mustang, and is a white male,
> You
> > are saying you would not tell the police that info because then they would be
> > PROFILING white males in dark Mustangs.....
> >
> > or say a gang of Mexican drug smugglers shoot and kill a rancher in AZ. then the
> cops
> > shouldn't be looking for Mexican gang members??? And that actually happened.
> You are
> > truly stupid. You fag. Retard.
> >
> > Do us a favor and pick up a book fagot.
> >
> >
> > And YES it is fair to arrest someone because they broke the LAW dumbass. Its
> been a
> > law for 60 years that immigrants must carry their papers. I guess it not fair to
> get
> > arrested when getting pulled over and not having your licenses right. Man you
> are
> > stupid. I guess the next time a cop asks me for ID, i will say Hey man, this guy
> on
> > the SP board said I dont need ID, so its cool.
> > Why dont you try that out, turd. let me know how it turns out idiot.
> >
> > We all have to carry ID, no matter the color. Everybody is profiled to a point
> in Law
> > enforcement. Nobody will be getting pulled over for being brown, only if they
> are
> > speeding, or shooting some one in the face. Then if they have a suspicion, they
> can
> > ask for papers, so if you are Mexican, speeding in Big Rig painted primer gray,
> and
> > only have a Mexican drivers licenses and dont speak English, that would be
> > suspicious. dont u think jerkoff.
> >
> >
> > I dont agree with the law because from what I can tell, the state does not have
> the
> > authority according to the constitution. Although the 10th amendment may provide
> the
> > ability. But I'm sure you have never heard of the Constitution have you butt
> pirate.
> >
> > You are so mis informed its hilarious. oh well thats what we get these days in
> > government schools, where all you learn is, make everybody feel good, well we
> cant
> > have a stable society based on emotions and feelings. The Law is the Law period.
> > Bitch.
> >
> >
> > If you want to know my political view, ask me, dont "profile" me or i
> may
> > start to cry cause its not fair.... ha ha ha, what a miserable existence you
> must
> > have. You f*cking pig. f*ck off and go learn something retard.
> >
> >
> > And just so you know, my two best friends are MEXICAN!!! ahhhhh run away run
> > away!!!!!
> >
> > We are a nation of laws. If you dont want to enforce one, then lets not enforce
> any,
> > so everyone feels good about themselves.
> >
> > Now go back to listening to lady ga ga, let the liberals go ahead and numb you
> into
> > thinking you need government to help everybody along and that you cant do
> anything
> > alone. I'll be here taking personal responsibility and governing my own life.
> > Retard.
> Wow. You called me stupid, but your grammar sucks.
> It's kind of funny that you resort to calling me stupid names. I AM a homo, yes! VERY
> GOOD! Have a sticker. You can't really say that like an insult. I couldn't even read
> your whole post, because it was so filled with stupid stereotyping and horrible
> grammar that it hurt my eyes.
>
> Your post is invalid. Thank you for using Wii fit man.


Classic liberal come back. If you cant make a factual argument, demonize it, and go for the emotional argument ha ha ha, i laugh at your ignorance. Go back to your trailer park Bubba is waiting to give you your next Man Cream injection.

I love how you feign offense at stereo types.......have you ever seen South Park..... Thats kinda what they do dumbass. Read a Book. And not Green Eggs and Ham again, try a big boy book this time. Retard.

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