Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

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Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby arr345 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:47 am

I love video games, I've played them since the days at LA Grouphome. One game I'm really looking into is Bioshock 3. But lately I've been told ths BS3 is racist, sexist, and nationalist. I didn't believe it at first, but then I saw of it. I'm not too sure, but what do you think? Watch these:

Gameplay video 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6_PSJJFqmk

Gameplay video 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ9m6kJNeuk&feature=related

Myself, Robbie, and a few other BBSers are Bioshock fans (well this and Dead Space). Ken Levine (Bioshock creator) says its a way of unleashing his imagination. For those of you who don't know what Bioshock is, here are the trailers for BS1 and BS2.

Bioshock 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoYorK3E4aM

Bioshock 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lngIFXRi4&feature=related
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby Ex1lepr0 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:05 pm

Well, I'm not a Bioshock fan, and I'm not going to buy this game, but I read the article for it in Gameinformer. Since the main setting is a flying city that's intensely nationalistic, what may be going on here is reverse psychology. By making this city of people who feel intensely loyal to the founding fathers, the creators are probably trying to get the player to hate the city and its xenophobic, nationalistic and arrogant citizens. Again, not going to buy this game, that's just my impression.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby Big-Will » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:09 pm

Ex1lepr0 wrote:By making this city of people who feel intensely loyal to the founding fathers (i.e., Republicans as they see themselves), the creators are probably trying to get the player to hate the city (the United States, or the District of Columbia - a city that isn't part of any state) and its xenophobic, nationalistic and arrogant citizens (i.e., Republicans as others see them). Again, not going to buy this game, that's just my impression.

Fixed that for ya.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby Unassumption » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:09 pm

I've never heard that about it - but EVERYTHING has been called offensive by someone. I haven't played it but the 'stand guard against foreign hoards' guys are clearly the villains. It's like people objecting to south park because they think the show is anti-semitic, because Cartman is in it. Who knows there might be some unintentional biggotry in it but It's probably not worth fussing about given how much deliberate and direct discrimination is out there.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby BigGuy101 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:26 am

Unlike the massive underwater city of Rapture, which was built in secret; Columbia (the floating air city), according to Ken Levine, was built and launched by the US government shortly after the civil war. Its suppose to be a symbol of power for the US. The city floats around the world and is named is after the female personification of America. Its a way of sending a message to the world like, "look world, here's what we can do, here's what we're capable of." The game is in the year 1912.

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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby arr345 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:29 pm

Big-Will wrote:
Ex1lepr0 wrote:By making this city of people who feel intensely loyal to the founding fathers (i.e., Republicans as they see themselves), the creators are probably trying to get the player to hate the city (the United States, or the District of Columbia - a city that isn't part of any state) and its xenophobic, nationalistic and arrogant citizens (i.e., Republicans as others see them). Again, not going to buy this game, that's just my impression.

Fixed that for ya.

What do you mean by that Will?
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby Big-Will » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:53 pm

One can see political overtones in those videos.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby Ex1lepr0 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:09 pm

Big-Will wrote:One can see political overtones in those videos.



Oh easily. But I hesitate to single out Republicans, because I've met liberals who feel the same way about our country. I feel it's addressed to all Americans, and is meant to address how we've responded to terrorist threats and this strange notion that just because we're the U.S, we can't possibly be wrong.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby BigGuy101 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:00 pm

Every game in the BIOSHOCK series has one theme to help tell its strories. For example: BIOSHOCK 1 is Objectivism; BIOSHOCK 2 use Collectivism; BIOSHOCK INFINITE is Patriotism.

I'm guessing the next BIOSHOCK will be Communism.

It's not the game that's racist, just the characters.
Big-Will wrote:One can see political overtones in those videos.

One of the same reason I loved that original BIOSHOCK game, and why I'm picking up BIOSHOCK INFINITE when it comes out.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby arr345 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:05 am

Hey Robbie, I was gonna tell when we were at MickeyD's but I forgot. Did you know Danny told me the only reason bought BS1 and 2 was because of the little sisters?
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby BigGuy101 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:09 am

Danny's a pedophile if you ask me.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby Big-Will » Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:41 am

arr345 wrote:Did you know Danny told me the only reason bought BS1 and 2 was because of the little sisters?

Do you know what that says about him? If not, read Rob's post again.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby arr345 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:05 pm

^
Wait. Do you even know what a little sister is? (in terms of Bioshock; have you even played Bioshock).

And are you talking about Danny?
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby BigGuy101 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:32 pm

You know what they should do for the next BIOSHOCK, a city in a volcano.

I still prefer DEAD SPACE, and I know you do too Amy.
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Re: Is BioShock 3 Infinite racist?

Postby Big-Will » Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:33 pm

arr345 wrote:^
Wait. Do you even know what a little sister is? (in terms of Bioshock; have you even played Bioshock).

And are you talking about Danny?

I don't play it, but I checked out the term. Doesn't matter what they actually do, one of the reasons he chose them is for their size. But barring any other info about Danny, I can only go by Robert's word.
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