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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:32 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes

Think the video should have English subtitles, but I'm not sure, so just in case, here is a rough translation.

Hello.
I'm Russian occupant. It is my profession. Historically.

Once I occupied Siberia. Now there produce oil, gas, aluminum and still a lot of things useful. Now there cities where there are high-rise buildings, kindergartens, hot water and hospitals.
Now there did not sold women, for a bundle of sable skins, as it was till Russian.

I occupied the Baltic states. I built up there, instead of farms, the factories and power plants. In the Baltic States formerly manufactured upscale radio equipment and cars, famous perfume and balms.
I was asked to leave from there.
Now there is "mined" sprats, and most of the working population in Europe cleans toilets.

I occupied Central Asia. In the bare steppes I built canals, factories, spaceports, hospitals and stadiums. There were building space rockets and aircraft, oil and gas and chemical equipment, mined copper, oil and gold, grew wheat and cotton for the whole country.
I was asked to leave from there.
Now there is "mined" American loans, to grow hemp and opium poppy, and half of working-age population went to work as street cleaners or on construction sites to former occupants.

I occupied the Ukraine. And there I also built factories and power plants, bridges, factories, mines and universities. Together with the Ukrainians I'm produced aircraft engines, ships, tanks and cars.
I was asked to leave from there.
Now there destroy all that is left of the occupier, and there is no build anything new, except endless revolutions in commercial quantities and dictatorship. And at the same time they convinced that Europe is waiting for them with open arms.

And yet you know what? I'm sick of apologizing for what I occupant.

Yes, I occupant. I aggressor and bloodthirsty monster. Be afraid. This I suffered atrocities Polish invaders during the Troubles, but what ended their intervention? I burned Moscow, so as not to give it to Napoleon Bonaparte - but how Napoleon finished?
This I sat in a trench at Volokolamsk, knowing that can not contain the Nazis, where now those Nazis? where their damned Hitler?

I'm the occupant, but in civilized Europe knew nothing about it, so came home to me all and sundry. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French .... Earth enough for everyone - 2.5 meters for each.
(Americans truth are afraid come, and hope on rockets or to launch the fifth column, but for them we too have a lot of land - enough for everyone in abundance.)

You see ... I do not need your hypocritical "freedom" -(freedom from having to be a man). I do not need your rotten democracy of capitalism, to me is alien everything that you call the Western "values" - perversions, vices, deceit and endless greed, alien to me your two-faced attitude.

I have other interests. Politely warn you for the last time. Do not run into trouble. I'm build the peace, I love the peace, but I know how to fight best of all.

Sincerely, Russian occupant.


Well, what do you think about it?
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby Big-Will » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:20 pm

Here are what the subs say.
Hello!
I'm a Russian Occupant.
It is my profession.
It just so happened historically.

I once occupied Siberia.
Now they produce oil, gas, aluminum, and other useful stuff.
Now there are cities with kindergartens and hospitals.
Now they can't sell women for a bundle of sable skins, like it used to be before the Russians.

I occupied the Baltic States.
Many factories and power plants were built on their farmlands.
Baltic States used to produce high quality radios and cars, famous perfumes and balms.
I was asked to leave them...
Now they sell sprats, and some of their people clean toilets in Europe.


I invaded central Asia.
In bare steppes I built canals, factories, spaceports, hospitals and stadiums.
They started building space rockets and planes, developing their industry, growing wheat and cotton for the whole country.
I was asked to leave them...
Now there are developing American loans and growing marijuana.
Part of their population went to work at the construction sites of the former occupants.


I occupied Ukraine.
Together with the Ukranians I built aircraft engines, ships, tanks, and cars.
I was asked to leave them...
Now they are destroying all that is left of the occupant.
Moreover, they don't build anything new except for endless "Maidans" (parks and squares) and dictatorship.


Yes, I'm an occupant! And I'm tired of apologizing for it!
I'm an occupant by birthright! An aggressor and bloodthirsty monster!
Be afraid!

I suffered the atrocities of the Polish invaders during the Time of Troubles, but how did this intervention end?
I burned Moscow so that Napoleon wouldn't get it, but how did Napoleon end up?
I sat in a trench at Volokolamsk knowing that the Nazis could not be held up. Where are these Nazis and their cursed Hitler now?
All and sundry used to come to my house: the Turks, the British, the Poles, the Germans, the French. We've got enough land for everyone; two and a half square meters for each of them!
Please understand:
I don't need your hypocritical "freedom."
I don't need your rotten "democracy."
Everything that you call "the Western values" is alien to me!
I have other interests.
I politely warn you for the last time: Don't mess with me!
I build peace, I love peace, but i know how to fight better than anybody else.

Sincerely,
your Russian occupant.
Of course, all this can be said about the United States too - we go in, invade and occupy, improve the lives of people for a while, and then leave. And when we leave, it all falls apart.

Marijuana isn't the deadly drug Russians think it is. Alcohol is far deadlier.

The Turks, the British, the Poles, the Germans, the French all came to visit before the Soviet era and may come to visit now that that era is over.

We in the States do consider Russia as part of Western civilization, since its alphabet is derived from the Greek alphabet and its capitals Kiev and Moscow were part of the Byzantine Empire and the Orthodox Church. Russia has gone its own way, sure, but its roots are Western.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby JamesPup » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:33 pm

That video was very pro-Russian. It was very war motivated also. I guess I would like the pro-American one. I laughed at the transvestite with a beard and the baby book about having two dads. That sure is becoming a norm in America but there are plenty of haters in America. People are slowly becoming accepting of everything in America though. I would bet that gays will be accepted in Russia’s future also so this video will be funny when that happens because it has an anti-gay message. One thing is that America has lots of different races and ethnic backgrounds. You can’t say it is all white. That is one thing that the video didn’t mention. America’s future will not be a white one in 100 years, whites will be the minority and it looks like everyone will just be bi-racial. Soon Russia will be invaded by minorities and you too will lose heritage and tradition. Also are the countries Russia used to occupy really doing that bad? Well one thing is for sure is they don’t want the US’s help either. I don’t think we do much for any of them but we did occupy Afghanistan which I think the video was saying Russia did also. The thing is that if a country doesn’t want you then there is nothing that can be done to fix it. Russia has nothing to be shy about. It is a big country and they aren’t expected to be able to control everything. The US has lost wars and deals with countries also. We don’t really try to incorporate countries by force to join us though. Lots of people want to immigrate to America and so much so we can’t let them all come to live here. Does Russia get many newcomers? America’s immigration problem is a sign of the love people have for America. Can Russia make the same claim? Time will tell what happens but it is obvious to me that the whole world will be one accepting place in the future where all types of people are found throughout and in every country. Patriotism will be dead in the future as being a member of a country will not mean anything because the whole world will be run so similarly. Sports may be the last sign of patriotism and war the world will have to offer as people from different areas who are the same in everyway will be at war with each other over sporting events. That is the future I see. Also fighting will be hacker groups which sounds like our future. They will be people that never meet and only fight in cyber space for reasons of anarchy.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby mudlick » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:10 pm

Agent FSS that is blatant well polished propaganda. its like wiping your ass with silk.

i deleted this comment because clearly i acted out of boredom yet now its seems Russia is jerking off its ego:

there is a robust porn industry of Russian Femdom strap-on porn where Russian women emasculate Russian men, going directly against current Russian patriarchy. it is interesting to see where Pussy Riot would eventually take this if they stick around but clearly Russia is becoming as mysoginist as Islam, yet in the underground porn industry forces are seeking to undermine Russian masculinity.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:31 pm

Big-Will wrote:Of course, all this can be said about the United States too - we go in, invade and occupy, improve the lives of people for a while, and then leave. And when we leave, it all falls apart.
Thank you for your help in translation Big-Will, I hope this version is more accurate and clear. Although a little clarification - "Maidan" (transliterated from Ukrainian) - this is the main city square in the Ukrainian cities, but since 2008 it has become synonymous with the word revolution.

The whole point of this appeal is that it shows the point of view that adhere to Western politicians and experts-russophobes and which they inspire their gullible townsfolk, that is, militancy, aggression and irresistible expansionism Russia. Indeed, what sense is constantly trying to make excuses, if for explain any of our steps on the world stage use one of these three options or all together.

The main point of the occupation is to get resources and wealth from the occupied territories at the rate which extent that surpasses losses and economic costs of this event, or another purpose strategic position in the region. To occupy the territory by military means to improve the lives of the local population it is unimaginable absurdly, not to mention that spend their own money and resources for this purpose. Russian Empire acquired half of its territories by help diplomacy, since we offer incredibly favorable conditions for union: investments, military protection, assistance in the development of industry, equal with us indigenous rights, conservation of land and property, the preservation of titles of nobility and automatic equalization of the rights of Russian and local nobles, most importantly guarantee the preservation of small nations and to provide all possible assistance and furthermore gave them complete freedom, while the indigenous Russian strangely continued were serfs. Thus we annexed part of Siberia, the Far East, Central Asia, Ukraine and Poland, the Baltic States and Finland (Finland and Poland had full autonomy and local self-government). Strange Russian expansionism. By the way the Soviet Union adhered to the same principles, although with adjusted for ideology.
Big-Will wrote:Marijuana isn't the deadly drug Russians think it is. Alcohol is far deadlier.
Marijuana is not very deadly drug if it is not to smoke frequently and in moderation, although there is also possible an overdose, the problem is that it often leads us to the beginning of the use of heavier drugs. How in America, I do not know.
Big-Will wrote:The Turks, the British, the Poles, the Germans, the French all came to visit before the Soviet era and may come to visit now that that era is over.
With arms do not go to visit, it is not well, we have repeatedly
explained these guys :D .
Big-Will wrote:We in the States do consider Russia as part of Western civilization, since its alphabet is derived from the Greek alphabet and its capitals Kiev and Moscow were part of the Byzantine Empire and the Orthodox Church. Russia has gone its own way, sure, but its roots are Western.
Perhaps this is the main paradox, Russia all the time of its existence, persistently tried to prove that is part of Western civilization, adopted Western institutions, orders, sometimes some traditions. It is interesting that our modern alphabet was not originally Russian, we have adopted it at the time spread of Orthodoxy. Much of Western civilization comes from the Greek, since the founders of the Roman Empire had learned much from the Greeks, and after the collapse of the Roman Empire, Europeans have adopted their experience. The Byzantine Empire was formed from part of the Roman Empire, although I do not quite understand, in the United States believe that Kiev and Moscow were part of the Byzantine Empire due to the fact that we have also started to practice Orthodoxy?
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:44 pm

JamesPup wrote: laughed at the transvestite with a beard and the baby book about having two dads. That sure is becoming a norm in America but there are plenty of haters in America. People are slowly becoming accepting of everything in America though. I would bet that gays will be accepted in Russia’s future also so this video will be funny when that happens because it has an anti-gay message.
Tell you a secret in presidential administration we have plenty of gay people :) . And it's all quite satisfied. Another thing many annoying that gays trying to get more rights than most of the population have under the constitution, as well as a special attitude in society as in the West, when you can scream at each corner of the discrimination, if suddenly someone does not want to play by these rules.
JamesPup wrote:One thing is that America has lots of different races and ethnic backgrounds. You can’t say it is all white. That is one thing that the video didn’t mention. America’s future will not be a white one in 100 years, whites will be the minority and it looks like everyone will just be bi-racial. Soon Russia will be invaded by minorities and you too will lose heritage and tradition.
Russia ranks second in the world after India in the number of ethnic groups living. Nevertheless, we still manage to preserve their culture and traditions and try to assist in preserving the culture and traditions of the other ethnic groups. The thing is the approach. Although it is difficult to say what will happen in 100 years, at this pace may not be either Russia or America.
JamesPup wrote:Also are the countries Russia used to occupy really doing that bad? Well one thing is for sure is they don’t want the US’s help either. I don’t think we do much for any of them but we did occupy Afghanistan which I think the video was saying Russia did also. The thing is that if a country doesn’t want you then there is nothing that can be done to fix it. Russia has nothing to be shy about. It is a big country and they aren’t expected to be able to control everything. The US has lost wars and deals with countries also.
Yes we, too, stepped on a rake which named Afghanistan, before us were still British. There's nothing of value, but the whole point of owning this piece of mountains and desert in its favorable geostrategic position, which allows you to control all of Central Asia. The main thing to come there with peace, not war, it is impossible to subdue the local population, but we can win their confidence and loyalty. Russian Empire succeeded, but alas not for long.
Actually we never, except during the Soviet era (but then it was ideology) did not want control everything. This simply not necessary.
JamesPup wrote:We don’t really try to incorporate countries by force to join us though.
Well, let us turn to history. United States bought Alaska from us and Louisiana from the French. In the 19th century obtained concessions to Spain the territory of Florida by military invasion.
In 1845 invaded Texas, formerly owned by Mexico.
In 1846 unleashed a war with Mexico, and 2 years later seized huge territories of New Mexico and North Carolina.
At the end of the 19th century increased the desire for territorial expansion. At the heart of this policy lay "Monroe Doctrine" (it is still in effect) It was the propaganda of the idea that the United States - the protector of all Latin American countries. In fact, these countries have attracted entrepreneurs. Newspapers screaming about the special U.S. mission, called USA an exceptional country and chosen by God to save the world which is mired in sin.

In 1898, the United States invaded Puerto Rico, Cuba. Then seized the Philippines, Guam, annexed Hawaii.

In 1903 the United States were at war with Colombia, because it refused to sell area for build a canal on the Isthmus of Panama, in 1905 with the support of the United States occured a rebellion there, formed the puppet state of Panama, where the United States acquired the right to build a canal and control over it.

JamesPup wrote:Lots of people want to immigrate to America and so much so we can’t let them all come to live here. Does Russia get many newcomers? America’s immigration problem is a sign of the love people have for America. Can Russia make the same claim?
Russia is the second country in the world after U.S for immigrants. Many people want to immigrate to the United States because of the misconception that there them waiting mountains of gold and luxurious life. Thanks to Hollywood in the world formed the image of the US like super-prosperous country with unlimited possibilities. Only people forgot explained that for this requires a lot of work and to be highly qualified specialist. The same can be said about Russia.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:50 pm

mudlick wrote:Agent FSS that is blatant well polished propaganda. its like wiping your ass with silk.
No worse than American. At least have something to compare. :)
mudlick wrote:i deleted this comment because clearly i acted out of boredom yet now its seems Russia is jerking off its ego:
No, rather some individuals, maybe, well just a little bit, it's not forbidden :lol: ... for the most part we joke over the situation, but Russian humor is unfortunately understandable only to the Russians.
mudlick wrote:there is a robust porn industry of Russian Femdom strap-on porn where Russian women emasculate Russian men, going directly against current Russian patriarchy. it is interesting to see where Pussy Riot would eventually take this if they stick around but clearly Russia is becoming as mysoginist as Islam, yet in the underground porn industry forces are seeking to undermine Russian masculinity.
So these need to be proud or quite the opposite?
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby JamesPup » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:56 am

Agent-FSS look at this link http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolog ... ar-AA9t0Ys
The first helicopter is like a drone with a bus or subway train on the bottom. I can picture it with a blowup doll with a bush underneath.
I think most of this stuff will not be made and it must cost billions to have people dream up a drone with a bus on the bottom.
Does Russia have similar military advancements planned? If America is just going to show off what they are working on then everyone will be able to copy it.
What seems to be the officer problem?
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby Big-Will » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:00 am

agent-FSS wrote:Thank you for your help in translation Big-Will, I hope this version is more accurate and clear. Although a little clarification - "Maidan" (transliterated from Ukrainian) - this is the main city square in the Ukrainian cities, but since 2008 it has become synonymous with the word revolution.
Makes sense, as a revolution would likely begin in a wide-open space like a square or a park. This would make the translation "endless revolutions and dictatorship" or maybe just "endless protests and dictatorship" (like the Occupy movements we had here a few years back)
agent-FSS wrote:Marijuana is not very deadly drug if it is not to smoke frequently and in moderation, although there is also possible an overdose, the problem is that it often leads us to the beginning of the use of heavier drugs. How in America, I do not know.
We called it the gateway drug for decades, and still do, but medicinal marijuana has gotten a foothold here and made it easier for recreational marijuana to be legalized. I don't think a marijuana overdose has ever been recorded here, at least not a fatal one.
agent-FSS wrote:The Byzantine Empire was formed from part of the Roman Empire, although I do not quite understand, in the United States believe that Kiev and Moscow were part of the Byzantine Empire due to the fact that we have also started to practice Orthodoxy?
Mostly from the conversion of Russia to Orthodox Christianity. Rome had already fallen in the 5th century, and the western half of the empire became the Holy Roman Empire. The eastern half became the Byzantine Empire and sat between (Kievan) Rus and the Holy Roman Empire. Today I learned that Russia had probably as much influence from the Mongols as from the Byzantine Empire.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby mudlick » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:13 pm

mudlick wrote:there is a robust porn industry of Russian Femdom strap-on porn where Russian women emasculate Russian men, going directly against current Russian patriarchy. it is interesting to see where Pussy Riot would eventually take this if they stick around but clearly Russia is becoming as mysoginist as Islam, yet in the underground porn industry forces are seeking to undermine Russian masculinity.
So these need to be proud or quite the opposite?[/quote]


i dont think youre taking what i said too seriously. keep making High Calibre Russian propaganda like this and eventually Pussy Riot will make a propaganda of Putin getting sodomized by a woman. i am a propaganda master but you cant seem to see my websites. starving artists can make high quality propaganda for free. no where near as good as the production house quality of the 'occupant' film but then again south park is low par animation yet it still works
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:46 pm

JamesPup wrote:Agent-FSS look at this link http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolog ... ar-AA9t0Ys
The first helicopter is like a drone with a bus or subway train on the bottom. I can picture it with a blowup doll with a bush underneath.
I think most of this stuff will not be made and it must cost billions to have people dream up a drone with a bus on the bottom.
Does Russia have similar military advancements planned? If America is just going to show off what they are working on then everyone will be able to copy it.
Сonvertiplane, not worth it to spend money on them. In the USSR in the early 60's tried to develop a convertiplane bit similar at the current in U.S, it was called the Ka-22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-22, but due to the large number of accidents in mass production, it did not go. Of course technology is now well advanced, and have have aircraft like in movie Avatar is cool, but personally my expert opinion: in combat, at war with not a banana republic, convertiplane would be unreliable for the transport of soldiers, survivability of the machine during a fight worse than at helicopter, in it easier to hit because of wings, with the failure of one engine machine becomes unmanageable, as well as at convertiplanes sometimes happens desync thrust in engines, which also leads to an accident. Such technology more the best fit for drones.

But Sikorsky-Boeng SB-1 in my opinion an interesting model.

I know that we have a project shock stealth helicopter Ka-58 "Night Ghost" and project strategic multipurpose bomber PAK-DA, which is to replace the Tu-160. Multirole fighter T-50 PAK-FA finishes test, this year expected to begin deliveries in the Air Force. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjQG1s3Isgg
Was a very interesting project Su-47 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-47, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16YbQsvseEc, but unfortunately the project was closed, in production fighter run was not, because we needed a fifth-generation fighter, not another one a 4 ++. Instead its started production the Su-35-S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icVhJ7opENE
It's hard to remember all at once. I'll try to find something for civilian use.

By the way there are military technology that the Americans have copied at us.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:51 pm

Big-Will wrote:
agent-FSS wrote:Thank you for your help in translation Big-Will, I hope this version is more accurate and clear. Although a little clarification - "Maidan" (transliterated from Ukrainian) - this is the main city square in the Ukrainian cities, but since 2008 it has become synonymous with the word revolution.
Makes sense, as a revolution would likely begin in a wide-open space like a square or a park. This would make the translation "endless revolutions and dictatorship" or maybe just "endless protests and dictatorship" (like the Occupy movements we had here a few years back)
Yes, that's right.
Big-Will wrote:
agent-FSS wrote:Marijuana is not very deadly drug if it is not to smoke frequently and in moderation, although there is also possible an overdose, the problem is that it often leads us to the beginning of the use of heavier drugs. How in America, I do not know.
We called it the gateway drug for decades, and still do, but medicinal marijuana has gotten a foothold here and made it easier for recreational marijuana to be legalized. I don't think a marijuana overdose has ever been recorded here, at least not a fatal one.
I am afraid that in Russia you cannot use the approach as in the Netherlands or the US, otherwise it will lead to very bad consequences, even for medical purposes. A lot depends on concentration THC, if concentration in the marijuana above 20% die of stupidity quite possibly, we have cases.
Big-Will wrote:
agent-FSS wrote:The Byzantine Empire was formed from part of the Roman Empire, although I do not quite understand, in the United States believe that Kiev and Moscow were part of the Byzantine Empire due to the fact that we have also started to practice Orthodoxy?
Mostly from the conversion of Russia to Orthodox Christianity. Rome had already fallen in the 5th century, and the western half of the empire became the Holy Roman Empire. The eastern half became the Byzantine Empire and sat between (Kievan) Rus and the Holy Roman Empire. Today I learned that Russia had probably as much influence from the Mongols as from the Byzantine Empire.
It is difficult to say what influence had Mongols on Russians, since according to research geneticists - Russians haven't genes of Mongols, and that means that Russians did not try to assimilate. Traces of cultural influence, I do not know. Perhaps something left, but it's been too long. Some researchers argue that we had necessary military alliance with Mongols so as to protect Orthodox Rus from Catholic Crusades. One can say with confidence - Russia likely keeper Orthodox traditions of the Byzantine Empire.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby Big-Will » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:21 pm

Faster, larger, further: How the USSR combined the plane and the helicopter. Looks like (something similar to) the Mi-30 is being developed. The U.S. has 160 Ospreys.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby JamesPup » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:08 am

agent-FSS you know far too many military aircraft names. I can't remember one. How do you remember so much bull? Big-Will even knows these aircraft, did I miss something where it is normal to retain stuff like this?
What seems to be the officer problem?
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:43 pm

Big-Will wrote:Faster, larger, further: How the USSR combined the plane and the helicopter. Looks like (something similar to) the Mi-30 is being developed. The U.S. has 160 Ospreys.
Yes, collapse of the Soviet Union did not allow many projects become a reality, but I hope that now we make up all, so as to develop their own tiltrotor, for our civil aviation it will be very handy.

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