Russia Demystified

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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:48 pm

JamesPup wrote:agent-FSS you know far too many military aircraft names. I can't remember one. How do you remember so much bull? Big-Will even knows these aircraft, did I miss something where it is normal to retain stuff like this?
I do know a lot of different military equipment, not only Russian but also foreign. And what about the American military aviation? In the US, there are many pretty not bad and good aircraft, F-117, various modifications of the F-15, F-16, F-18, A-10, B-1, B-2, B-52, eventually, latest F -22 and F-35 its existence is difficult to forget. As I recall? Well, think I just have a good memory when you know exactly what need search on the Internet, it's easily. In Russia, it is quite normal to be interested in many things, this is great, you can always find a topic to talk and to be an interesting conversationalist. Of course I do not speak for everyone, but I try have a lot of interests.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby Big-Will » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:17 am

You don't have to be an expert in these things, you just have to find informative articles and use them to your advantage. :)
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby JamesPup » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:44 pm

Good news for Europe but bad news for Russia. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/could ... is-n322841
Europe is thinking of creating their own army to fight Russia. I hope this plan comes into play as I don't like what Russia is doing with Ukraine. They are going to need a lot of troops as Russia may of had something like 30,000 troops at one point on the borders with Ukraine and Russia. If Europe can muster up 100,000 troops to fight Russia with I don't think Russia will invade Europe anymore. Also they should use this army to get Russia out of Ukraine once and for all.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby triplemultiplex » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:59 am

Good on Europe to deal with their own BS rather than the US wasting our time and money playing security guard.

I flatly reject any of this bullsh*t saber-rattling I see from certain corners that Russia is somehow a threat to the United States. Not because of any weakness I perceive on Russia's part, but because there is absolutely no scenario where humanity benefits from these two nations getting into another dick-measuring contest. The amount of unnecessary suffering caused by the Cold War is a matter of historical record.

And the unintended consequences! We are still suffering the fallout from our shortsightedness in that era. Meddling in the domestic affairs of other nations always seems to bite one in the ass. Strange that no one is able to learn this simple lesson.

Here's a bold new idea: Let other countries figure it out for themselves!
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:11 am

Big-Will wrote:You don't have to be an expert in these things, you just have to find informative articles and use them to your advantage. :)
Well, in some ways you're right, although I still think that need try memorize something useful from these articles :) .
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:19 am

JamesPup wrote:Good news for Europe but bad news for Russia. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/could ... is-n322841
Europe is thinking of creating their own army to fight Russia. I hope this plan comes into play as I don't like what Russia is doing with Ukraine. They are going to need a lot of troops as Russia may of had something like 30,000 troops at one point on the borders with Ukraine and Russia. If Europe can muster up 100,000 troops to fight Russia with I don't think Russia will invade Europe anymore. Also they should use this army to get Russia out of Ukraine once and for all.
And what's bad for us? Europe is going to scare us with his rusty scrap metal? its even the old Soviet weapon is superior, not to mention modern.

Yes, I have heard that at some not very smart European military officials fists itching with desire to fight, rather than to stop this stupid clowning and finally start delivering humanitarian aid to the south-east of Ukraine or Russia alone must feed the local population? these euro-idiots only increase the degree of international tension by their plans.

War hysteria that has infected Europe has bewilder, well or paranoia mass media, seems in EC people already intimidated of the Russian tanks up to hiccup, however for the whole year so no one bothered to present clear evidence that we are guilty of a civil war in Ukraine.

Furthermore, the armed forces of Europe in the current time period represent a very pitiful sight, for example in the German army lacks even a simple small arms, from 104 aircraft are only 40 combat-ready, military equipment only 57%, but if the Bundeswehr is one of the most efficient armies Europe, then what can be said about the rest? In the EU there is no money even to deduct 2% of GDP for the army of NATO, which united army of Europe? with what money? Army of Ukraine under Yanukovych was 120,000 men + reserve, but after coup d'etat most part retired from the armed forces, some moved to the Crimea, some moved to live in Russia, some have started help militia in the south-eastern Ukraine. Ukrainians would be enough forces and weapons to protect themselves and organize guerrilla resistance, a shining example of the aggression against countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and a few others is the emergence of powerful guerrilla movement in the occupied territories, which will be unable put down no one army in world, it is almost Afghanistan, instead we see hundreds of thousands of refugees and crowd deserters from the ranks of the Ukrainian army, and they are all somehow go in Russia.
What follows from this conclusion?
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:20 am

triplemultiplex wrote:Good on Europe to deal with their own BS rather than the US wasting our time and money playing security guard.

I flatly reject any of this bullsh*t saber-rattling I see from certain corners that Russia is somehow a threat to the United States. Not because of any weakness I perceive on Russia's part, but because there is absolutely no scenario where humanity benefits from these two nations getting into another dick-measuring contest. The amount of unnecessary suffering caused by the Cold War is a matter of historical record.

And the unintended consequences! We are still suffering the fallout from our shortsightedness in that era. Meddling in the domestic affairs of other nations always seems to bite one in the ass. Strange that no one is able to learn this simple lesson.

Here's a bold new idea: Let other countries figure it out for themselves!
United States volunteered play the role of world policeman and security guard. I do not think that everyone in America is like it, but I'm not sure that people understand the real situation. Alas must congratulate residents of the US, which, ironically, now found themselves as if the Soviet Union, I guess that more will only get worse.

I can only disappoint, U.S will have continue to protect Europe, which has long been unable to defend themselves, exactly ever since as merged in useless the European Union. Cold War began not the Soviet Union, although our government and hastened to dissociate itself from the rest of the world, since they did not want provide the standard of living as in the US because of ideological reasons, and after collapse of the Soviet Union Cold War did not end, its just put on pause, as soon as Russia began to recover the Cold War are preparing to launch with a new force.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:30 am

Here's still a little Russian propaganda :D , i.e precisely our point of view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQ2ddv4qQU
# Putin send troops ...
You often use this hashtag?
But if you wish to draw Russia into war? .. Ask yourself - you are ready watch this war without looking at the monitor, but your own eyes, sitting in the trenches?
Do you think this will not happen?
You are wrong! ..
Provoke enter Russian troops in Ukraine - is the most important task for the United States. One of the goals of the United States write off collapse of the economy of Ukraine on Russia.
Let's be realistic.
Ukraine will not get into composition EU, and loans IMF will not help economy recover.
But as soon as our army will enter in the Ukraine, could be blame Russia for all the ills of the Ukrainian people: owing to Russia stopped paying pensions and benefits, because of Russia destroyed all industry, it is Russia stole at Ukrainians them European dream ...
Of course, we can meet the requirements of the sofa generals and enter troops, but how it will look to the world community?
And here is how.
Russia enter troops without a UN resolution on territory of independent Ukraine, the government of Ukraine does not ask Russia about this, and those who requests not yet recognized for the world community, it is will be called in one word - aggression.
And the West set the rest of world against aggressor.
Will Russia's allies support aggressor?
Even if we just introduce a no-fly zone over the south-eastern Ukraine, Americans and NATO can introduce no-fly zone in turn already for our aircraft and missiles. What if they shoot down Russian aircraft? How to react?
Throw tank columns to the English Channel?
Start a war with Europe and the United States, plus Canada and Australia?
This is precisely what the U.S wanted.
America is choking from a colossal national debt that exceeds $ 17.6 trillion. They urgently need a big war. Mass bankruptcy of companies, crash of the holders of debentures, collapse of the securities market. This is burnt trillions of virtual money. National debt fall to zero and military-industrial complex of the United States receive orders from around the world, this is their chance to avoid an imminent bankruptcy.
Russia does not need this war, delay the conflict only strengthens us.
But people are dying in the Donetsk, and the Russian leadership has a choice - a bad decision or a very bad decision - hundreds die, or hundreds of thousands, or even millions ...
This is a terrible choice. But such is real geopolitics. And when you once again declare that Putin betray South-east [Ukraine], consider for a moment at what you're pushing your country?

If you're not ready in arms to defend the interests our country, at least stop hysteria. In geopolitics there is no room for emotion...
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby triplemultiplex » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:03 am

America's next bullshit war is going to be against Iran, not Russia.
As soon as the current bullshit war against ISIS winds down.
Especially if another Republican weasels his way into the White House in 2016.

Russia can have its fun with its bullshit war in Crimea/Ukraine/whatever.

It's all the same bullshit; invading countries that present no real threat in order to score political points back home. The US and Russia are doing the same stupid crap right now and getting mad at each other over "Who war it best?"

(don't know if that last joke will translate well, but I assure you, it's funny)
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby JamesPup » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:19 pm

I'm against the US fighting Iran. Iran does propaganda against the US and burns flags and says dirty things but that is about all they do. If Iran gets a nuke there is a good chance they will never lose it. Israel, Pakistan, India, and China all have nukes in this area and none of them use nukes. Israel is just trying to get the US to attack Iran because they said some mean things. I hope we never bother with Iran unless they are attacking our allies or us. Iran is helping fight ISIS on their own and I don't think Israel is doing anything to help us fight ISIS. If Israel wants a fight with Iran they should do it themselves. Israel receives the most money aid from the US then any other country we give to and they say how prosperous and bustling they are. Iran has Hassan Rouhani as president and he is not that bad of a guy and seems to be wanting peace and is not anti-Israeli. Iran's Ayatollah is the guy to watch out for but he has been nice at times to the US and Jews. I don't see us getting into a war with Iran because it would be a lot like Iraq. Iran doesn't have nukes rate now and they may be 20 years away from building one. If they ever threaten nuclear war with Israel then I could see a war but as long as they learn to shut up they should be allowed to do as they please.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:12 pm

triplemultiplex wrote:America's next bullshit war is going to be against Iran, not Russia.
As soon as the current bullshit war against ISIS winds down.
Especially if another Republican weasels his way into the White House in 2016.

Russia can have its fun with its bullshit war in Crimea/Ukraine/whatever.

It's all the same bullshit; invading countries that present no real threat in order to score political points back home. The US and Russia are doing the same stupid crap right now and getting mad at each other over "Who war it best?"

(don't know if that last joke will translate well, but I assure you, it's funny)
It really would be funny if it were not so sad, as we say :) . Iran establishes good relations with Russia, wanting to become an ally in the region, if that happens, then again there will be a clash of our and American interests.

Worse yet, it seems to me that the Republican nominee can really win election next year, and in this case no good Russian should not wait.

As for the problem with the ISIS that from bombing U.S and its allies very little use, loss Islamists are small and quickly replenished by new followers who go there from all over the world. Without a ground operation not win. In Russia, there are different policy proposals, some advised not to intervene, saying the war is not our, U.S made this mess, now let them disentangle and, conversely, some us calls intervene in the conflict, because America is clearly not coping, and uniting with Iran, Turkey and Syria to conduct a joint military operation, although it is likely the most radical idea, there are still proposal send Russian private military companies or military specialists, trainers and plenty of weapons to Iraq, or at least for the Kurds.
If this happens - the war would be even better.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:20 pm

JamesPup wrote: If Israel wants a fight with Iran they should do it themselves. Israel receives the most money aid from the US then any other country we give to and they say how prosperous and bustling they are.
I can say that sly Israelis deftly balancing between the US and Russia. From America they get money and military support, and we serve them like a good market and sent a large number of tourists. Netanyahu can be the Prime Minister for the fourth time and seems that it is all right.
JamesPup wrote:Iran doesn't have nukes rate now and they may be 20 years away from building one. If they ever threaten nuclear war with Israel then I could see a war but as long as they learn to shut up they should be allowed to do as they please.
We can only hope that sanity prevail and U.S. and Israel with Iran will not fight.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby agent-FSS » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:22 pm

I heard that in the USA there is such a thing as a middle name. Can anyone explain to me what it is, how appeared and why need? In Russia there is a patronymic, but from what I hear these are two completely different things.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby JamesPup » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:31 am

I had no idea Russian's didn't have a middle name. I thought before this post that all countries by now had middle names. Mine is Scott, my full name is James Scott Puppolo. Middle names are normal in America. Where it comes from I do not know but suspect it originated in Europe as most Americans come from Europe at the moment. As I have studied European history many authors of writings have middle names. Yet I don't know where the idea came from. Maybe the Middle East started it? I'd have to look it up but don't care much.

About Iran, at this point I would rather have Russia help fight ISIS and make deals with Iran that would control their behavior. Iran does provoke the Israeli hatred and needs guidance. I am not that in favor of the opposition rebels in Syria and would probably let Assad retain power if Iran could be controlled. Assad is not that bad a guy but yet there are many in his county that will not rest until he has no power. I still think Assad is a bad bet on the future of Syria because so many people hate him but if Russia thought somehow that they could fix things then okay, though I don't really believe things can be fixed without Assad's head decapitated. ISIS needs to be dealt with and the whole world is bothered by them. They are assh*les that need to be f*cked by a seriously gay dude. the US has oil only to worry about in the Middle East and so with the future being cars run on no gas I see no need to bother with wars that aren't going on yet. If Iran and Israel do have a war then okay but just talk is stupid. Pakistan and India argue over the Kashmir yet no nuclear war. I think people should be wanting to fight those who are killing people like ISIS and Al-Qaida.
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Re: Russia Demystified

Postby mudlick » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:01 am

instead of all this war why don't they just get jobs? they are obviously bored and have too much free time to fight.

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