*1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Diabeteth » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:02 pm

I missed the chance to see this last night, so all day at school today I was freaking out because I didn't know what had happened. I'm disappointed now that I've seen it... but mostly because Kenny didn't die. I know some people don't really like seeing Kenny die, but I never get tired of it. When you consider that the lines weren't said when he last died, it really had my hopes up for this episode.
Other than that, this episode was pretty good, but not great. A chance to see the Goth Kids was welcome, but an episode that doesn't star the originals isn't going to score too well with me. I actually found the beginning to be the funniest part. I see kids play games or go on different sites in the computer lab when they're supposed to be doing something else all the time. Come to think of it, a couple weeks ago while my class was in there the teacher caught this one boy HERE, watching South Park!
Also, I smiled when Cartman said, "You got pwned, Bebe!" I'm not sure why.
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby GotACoolName » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:26 pm

The latest two episodes have really restored my faith in M&T. Quite enjoyable. I love the goth kids.
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby DevilAngel16 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:30 pm

Oh my God, the Goth kids are so f*cking awesome. XD Their sarcasm is amazing. "You aren't really a vampire? I'm so freakin' shocked."

Those vampire kids really were f*ggy, though. But it was funny to watch Butters take the whole vampire thing way too seriously. That scene when he tried to suck Cartman's blood was hilarious. XD And I loved his hissing noises, and the fact that every time he attempted to jump out of a window, he'd somehow fall or hurt himself. Poor Butters. He's so naive, and he tries so desperately hard to fit in.

But anyway, I liked this episode a lot, especially the Goth kids' subplot. Their personalities are hysterical.

Oh, one thing I was confused about (I dunno if anyone mentioned this already; I'm too lazy to look), but that little goth...is a girl now? 'Cause she was wearing lipstick. Has she always been a girl? o_O
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Kobb » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:51 pm

Since the season is now over, I feel like quickly rating the episodes both for fun and to inform and that gay stuff.

Tonsil Trouble - 7.5/10
It started off great but really got weak towards the end. I found the parts with Jimmy Buffet and Kyle getting aids funny, but the last 7 or so minutes were just incredibly boring with Magic Johnson. The cure being money was kind of dissapointing as well. Still, it was an alright episode.

Britney's New Look - 5.5/10
Alright, but it's a kind of boring episode. Nothing in the episode stands out as being great or bad, so I just don't really care for it much.

Major Boobage - 9.5/10
Great idea, great premise, some really memorable scenes. Heavy Metal reference was absolutely hilarious. This is one of the classics of the 12th season.

Canada on Strike! - 9/10
Could've been a great (almost perfect) episode, but the youtube plot was taken further than it needed to be and really wasn't funny. However, the whole plot with Canada going on strike was too funny to call it nearly a bad episode, and the whole "I'm Not Your Buddy, Guy" joke is another season 12 classic.

Eek, a Penis! - 8/10
The whole Cartman plot is absolute trash, but the Mr. Garrison plot was funny enough to save the episode.

Over Logging - 7.5/10
Nothing really funny happened until Randy started looking at porn. The episode did have a slower pace, though, that I liked better. I'm glad they stuck with one plot and didn't make things more complicated than they needed to be.

Super Fun Time - 9/10
Another highlight of season 12. Both plots were pretty funny, even though the plot involving the kids taken hostage got a bit repetitive and ridiculous at times, in a bad way. Still, it was a great episode, and I managed to thoroughly enjoy Butters's part in the episode.

The China Probrem - 6/10
The entire plot with Cartman is absolute trash. The plot about Indy was a bit funny at times but really wasn't funny anything that had staying-power (as Jimmy would say) past a week. Jimmy was funny in the episode, at least.

Breast Cancer Show Ever - 9/10
I think it's a really overrated season 12 episode, but it's still really funny. Once again, they stuck with one storyline, limited the cultural references, and stayed on the plot.

Pandemic - 8.5/10
I'm actually starting to think I would've liked it better without a sequel. Read more in next part.

Pandemic 2: The Startling - 8.5/10
Pretty much the same thing as the first one. Honestly, there wasn't enough difference in either episodes to make them stand out from each other. If they had ended with Pandemic, I actually think they could've just made Pandemic more packed with plot or just stopped where they were or did a different episode. I don't know. Anyway, they were still funny episodes, and make a pretty good 2-parter in combination, though (Probably a 9/10 as a two-parter).

About Last Night - 8.5/10
Another fairly decent episode. The last-minute Obama edits were pretty amazing, and the episode was one of the funniest in the season. The plot with Obama and McCain stealing the Hope Diamond kind of killed the feeling for me. I understood the Ocean's reference, but it seemed more like a rip-off of the series than a reference to me.

Elementary School Musical - 9/10
One of the best of the season. There were plenty of laughs and, again, they stayed on the same basic plot throughout the episode. I know there were 2 storylines, but I say plot because they were actually connected in this episode, not just thrown in seperately. Some things in the episode were a bit gimmicky, though, like Kyle's jewfro and the slap man (even though he was f***ing hilarious).

The Undergroundable - 9.5/10
Some people might be surprised at why I'd give this episode such a high score, but I have a good reason as to why I rate it highly. Was it a good season finale? Unlike what everyone else has said, I'd say for the most part it was. I was dissapointed as some parts, such as the ending and the fact that Kenny never died (I'm not bothered by it that much but I was kind of expecting it). The reason I liked the episode so much was because it was different. South Park is a great series, but one of the flaws I've noticed (ESPECIALLY in seasons like Season 2) is that the episodes can very easily start running together, and they start to really lose value. In short, the episodes are really too similar. I really liked this episode because it seemed more relaxed and focused on the plot rather than jokes. There weren't too many jokes that were screamingly funny (as Jimmy says), but there enough funny jokes to keep me entertained but not distracted from the plot, which was actually pretty interesting. I always wondered why Butters never considered joining one of those "unpopular" groups, since everyone else treats him like sh*t, and I'm glad they finally showed that. I honestly don't care that Stan, Kyle, or Kenny were in it much, because even though I prefer chararacters like Kyle or Stan, there are enough episodes focused entirely on them. Frankly, there aren't many episodes focused on Butters ALONE (not accompanied by Cartman), and there have been none focused on the Goth Kids as well. I actually liked having this variety, and while the ending wasn't fantastic, the episode as a whole was unique enough to stand out to me. I guess I like the episode because it had a nice pace and didn't try to cram that much into it and it was one of the few Season 12 episodes that didn't try to be extremely "ambitious" in terms of jokes and ridiculous plots. I was extremely happy they also ended without a cultural reference driving the plot. In short, the episode wasn't really the funniest episode of the season, but it was the most original, and it had some good writing and design to it (minus the scene where the Hot Topic was burnt down, that was a pretty lame scene). I liked it.
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby -thang » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:55 pm

Since some people are rating this season I figured I would give my two cents as well:

Tonsil Trouble: 7/10

Britney's New Look: 6/10

Major Boobage: 9/10

Canada on Strike: 6/10

Eek, A Penis!: 5/10

Over Logging: 5/10

Super Fun Time: 8/10

The China Problem: 6/10

Breast Cancer Show Ever: 9/10

Pandemic I: 6/10

Pandemic II: 4/10

About Last Night: 8/10

Elementary School Musical: 5/10

The Ungroundable: 7/10

Average for Season 12: 6.5/10
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby airmoreau86 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:12 pm

doing the vamp thing and following the trend, here is my list of fav episodes for the season, from best to worst.

1) Major Boobage
2) Overlogging
3) Breast Cancer Show Ever
4) Super Fun Time
5) About Last Night. . .
6) Elementary School Musical
7) Canada on Strike
8) EEK, A Penis!
9) Tonsil Trouble
10) Pandemic 2: The Startling
11) The China Problem
12) Pandemic
13) The Ungroundable
14) Britney's New Look

Major Boobage is definitely the quintessential classic of the season, and any of the remainder of the top five could be my favorite any given day. I think the first run was stronger, with Britney's new look being the exception. That said, there's not one episode i think is terrible, but the last three just really weren't my favorite. I'm going to rewatch Ungroundable tonight to see if i gain a different perspective with a repeat view, as is often the case.
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby TheFoxSorcerer » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:20 pm

I really don't get the reference to Scotsdale (Missouri?).

Like, was it mentioned in a previous episode of South Park?
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby superiorsavior » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:43 pm

This episode really grew on me as I watched it. The goth-butters thing was pretty dull, and there were a lot of periods with no laughs at all, but from half way in the goth kids were such masters of sarcasm that it rose up the level of this episode. There were no parrody here! Plus use of recuring characters! Very much fanfic fule though, with the cartman/butters scene :p


A joke I didn't get either :p

Considering everyone else is doing it...

Tonsil Trouble: 4/10

Britney's New Look: 6/10

Major Boobage: 8/10

Canada on Strike: 9/10

Eek, A Penis!: 5/10

Over Logging: 6/10

Super Fun Time: 8/10

The China Problem: 3/10

Breast Cancer Show Ever: 9/10

Pandemic I: 7/10

Pandemic II: 8/10

About Last Night: 7/10

Elementary School Musical: 8/10

The Ungroundable: 7/10

Avarage: 7/10
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Mavie » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:55 pm

The Butters and Cartman scene was the best. And the tall goth saying "F--- you all" was the perfect way to end the season.

Thanks Matt and Trey, I can't wait to see what season 13 will do to further destroy our good christian society. :D

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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby tjrd » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:59 pm

Finally a return to form with something that has been so sorely missing from pretty much every other episode this season: scenes with well-written dialog that actually go somewhere, including jokes besides the catchphrase of the week (which incidentally was also pretty good this time).

The ending was a bit of a letdown but what I really loved was how there was room for irony in the goth speech. The way he described the vampires suddenly didn't sound so ridiculous at all, even though he meant it to.

Had this been in a better season I might've not even liked it that much, but now in that it's surrounded by duds like Super Fun Time and About Last Night it really was a sort of homecoming per se.

And Stone did an excellent job on Butters, too.
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Pip Tweek » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:01 am

This episode was better than I expected. I've always liked most of the non-main character episodes (Krazy Kripples, Butters' Very Own Episode, Stupid Spoiled Whore Video Playset, and even Not Without My Anus and Pip) because they expand the world of South Park by developing those characters and showing us what else goes on in South Park other than in the lives of the four main boys and their families.

I thought the goth kids were going to be a one-trick pony in Raisins, and most of their appearances have shown them to be laughably shallow and one-dimensional. This time, the goth kids carried the episode and came out looking respectable.

The assembly at the end was good in its own right, but I thought it was a great way to end the season. The last words of that one kid as he flipped off the crowd followed by the tremendous applause was poignant in a way I can't quite explain, but I can definitely see Matt and Trey speaking through them. 8)

Also, Butters' father with his pantry meltdown definitively made him the character in South Park I like the least. :x

Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby BigCamera4892 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:05 am

TheFoxSorcerer wrote:I really don't get the reference to Scotsdale (Missouri?).

Like, was it mentioned in a previous episode of South Park?

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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby whatthejew » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:13 am

Mavie wrote:The Butters and Cartman scene was the best. And the tall goth saying "F--- you all" was the perfect way to end the season.

Thanks Matt and Trey, I can't wait to see what season 13 will do to further destroy our good christian society. :D

I got my copy of "Cannibal! The Musical" today. Have a nice break guys, you deserve it.

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Oh and I agree with Pip Tweek, Matt and Trey were, most likely, saying 'f*ck you all' along with Curly Hair Goth, which, in a way, makes the episode a lot more enjoyable. x3
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby BigCamera4892 » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:15 am

Cool new Avatar, whatthejew :D
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Re: *1214: The Ungroundable* Post-Air Discussion

Postby irit8in » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:19 am

anyone know the name of the song that they played when the goth kids burnt down hottopic

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