*1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

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Fellow
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Fellow » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:24 am

The best part of this Discussion is the guy that says "he writes books" and kids will read history books he had a part in. Everyone knows all the important writers stay up till 3 am and discuss politics on southparkstudios.com lol. Seriously though almost made me laugh harder then the episode.
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby gigarath » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:28 am

TheFreakinStud wrote:
gigarath wrote:
NamedB wrote:Biggest problem with political discussions: neither side considering even the chance that the other guy could have any valid points.

that being said, let it be known that if you're going to say universal healthcare indicates that the prez is a communist and america is headed for the shitter, you're going to look like a dumbass. and if you're going to deny that universal healthcare isn't at least derived from Marxian principles, you will also look like a dumbass. read the dang manifesto he wrote (aptly titled "The Communist Manifesto") and then talk about communism. But please do so elsewhere...? There are other message boards on which you can impersonate pedantic erudites. :)

Moving on to more important things, like South Park. Just realized something. It may be a stretch, but could be worth pointing out. I noticed that Joseph Smith's superpower was freezing people (like Sally Struthers HA). I wonder if this is a nod to the "chilling effect," which is a principle of censorship. Studied it a bit in a communications course I took a few semesters ago. If i recall correctly, it has a few uses, but often refers to self-censorship motivated by fear of negative consequences. Intentional? or am I reading wayyy too much into that.

Whether or not all the bleeping was a premeditated PR maneuver, this episode DEFINITELY forced its viewers to think about censorship and freedom of speech. mission accomplished.



On the same token I want the terrorists to say whatever the hell they want. They have that right.


But they shouldn't have the right to threaten harm. That is not a freedom.


No they shouldn't, and I believe that Matt and Trey should press charges. The point I am trying to get across is that the issue is freedom of speech, and not Islam. It just so happens that radicals, and liberals turn it into such a deal. I mean I believe that shows like South Park should not be censored. Keeping on the issue of free speech. I think that it is disgusting that France is banning the full faced veil thing, I think it's called a burka. I mean women of the Islamic faith have the right to choose if they want to wear it or not. I want freedom of speech, and the only way to say that to freaking political correct pinko-commies is to repeat myself over, and over again.
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Neo-Rio » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:29 am

Matt and Trey should do a South Park remake of the Islam origin movie "The Message", except to deliberately overdo the censorship so that the original message and teachings of Muhammed are completely and utterly lost. That'll teach the Islamic fundies.

I loved 201. The censorship just made it even funnier.... and the fact that Muhammed wasn't even in the bear costume!
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby CartmanMills » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:30 am

Aside from the obvious controversy, I really enjoyed this episode. It's rewarding, as a long time South Park fan, to be given an episode that there are nice little references to previous episodes/storylines. It was just a funny episode - I preferred it to the last one which I felt was doing everything possible to reference back to earlier episodes, detracting from the fact that it just wasn't very funny.

But this episode seemed to pay off - Buddha snorting cocaine was a shocking laugh. I loved it. There's something very hilarious and ironic about the fact that whilst Muhammad isn't allowed to be shown in any manner, Jesus has his laptop looking at porn. There's something quite wrong with that logic - it's funny and downright hilarious, but this is surely justification that the whole argument for censorship in this episode is wrong.

I'm dissapointed that Comedy Central censored this - but I wasn't surprised. This is an issue that has many layers to it that I almost felt like South Park were trying desperately to get it passed (which they referenced as several characters moaned about the fact it was being brought up... again.) to break a social taboo, so to speak. If they were going to do it, this should have been the episode to do it. South Park is really spot on - you can't 'pick and choose' who you make fun of. If you make a Jesus joke, you can make a Muhammad joke. That's the beauty of freedom - it's controversial but that's the price of freedom. Some people have the right to be offended, some people have the right to laugh.
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby TheFreakinStud » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:34 am

Fellow wrote:The best part of this Discussion is the guy that says "he writes books" and kids will read history books he had a part in. Everyone knows all the important writers stay up till 3 am and discuss politics on southparkstudios.com lol. Seriously though almost made me laugh harder then the episode.


Someone obviously isn't a multi-tasker. I happen to be writing currently. Sometimes I'll stay up all night if I get in a good flow.

Did you not read the discussion? I didn't even bring the politics up. I was correcting someone who was way off-base on a subject he obviously didn't know much about, and that I happen to have studied.
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Postby axter » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:39 am

Nevermind the episode is not online... just get it from somewhere else as I did ....by mistake today . You will hear 100 bleeps and 30 sec of bleep....but in the end you get it.
I do not rate it very well , there are few comebacks but I think that there should be a forum with ideas of the show , as after 14 years ...many they can be writers...and much more they can't :)
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby MUSTreply » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:41 am

I believe the extra audio censoring was over the 'what i learned' speech. But i dont think its related to the muslims...

Why was the repeat and SPS stream pulled? I think CopperCab from youtube is the reason.

Watched the episode again and the bleeped out speech must have been relating to gingers. after kyle's bleep block, Jesus says, 'that's right, dont you see gingers.....::bleeppppp::'

I think we can all agree that this episode poked fun at the gingers more than the muslims....

I'd bet that they have more of a credible threat from that coppercab dude than any muslim right now.... just a feelin'


what do you think? gingers got the episode censored, not muslims....
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby kfgg » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:41 am

Tomorrow's repeat at 10:30 has also been removed from the schedule, replaced with the tale of Scrote McBoogerballs

I highly suggest you contact Viacom MTV Networks and voice your concern on this bull crap.

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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby James--76 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:44 am

Tomorrow's repeat at 10:30 has also been removed from the schedule, replaced with the tale of Scrote McBoogerballs



Wonder if it will be shown in england its airs friday night over here.
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby relax guy » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:53 am

PIP R.I.P

poor guy his parents had dead, been ripped on all his life and crushed by babs.

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he had his own epsodie at least.
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Postby Donald Serrot » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:00 am

Time to add my two cents. Found it elsewhere. Personally I feel some of the bleeps were intended, specifically the "What I Learned" speech. The bleeping of M*bleeeeeep*d I don't think were intended. Either that or this whole inability to replay it thing is a big joke and M&T/CC are all laughing at us right now reliving the T&P joke from back in the day. Not really sure what route it goes. As for the episode itself not bad, but not as powerful as I was expecting. And I wouldn't be surprised if the dad issue came up again, and really this was once again an elaborate lie made to protect the truth just in case anyone thought to dig deeper. I loved how Tom had the censor bar over him after the... gooification(?) then lost it as soon as someone made fun of him. Wonder if the same would happen to M*bleeeeeeeeeeeep*d... STOP BLEEPING ME! D:<
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby SouthParkKicksAss! » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:13 am

IF YOU STILL DON'T THINK THERE IS MAJOR f*cking CENSORING GOING ON HERE WITH THIS MUHAMMAD bullsh*t, THEN EXPLAIN WHY ALL THE PICTURES THAT I'VE POSTED IN THE LAST FEW HOURS ON ALL THE FORUM TOPICS ABOUT EPISODE "201" ARE SLOWLY BEING PULLED BY "WWW.SOUTHPARKSTUDIOS.COM"!!! I'M NOT f*cking JOKING ABOUT THIS!!! I WILL KEEP POSTING THEM, BUT ALL MY COMMENTS THAT CONTAIN THEM WILL BE ERASED VERY SHORTLY, SO ENJOY THEM WHILE THEY ARE UP!!! THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF f*cking CONTROL!!! NOW I AM SERIOUSLY PISSED THE f*ck OFF!!!
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby jaysoap » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:23 am

I hope we will get to see the actual episode someday that has not been doctored. I feel confident that Matt and Trey would still have wanted the episode to run even after the death threat, and I am definitely not happy that radical Islam won this round. If that Kyle speech posted in this forum is the actual one that was intended that would have been epic! Stupid religions are the MOST IMPORTANT thing that should be open to criticism.

Your fans are with you Matt and Trey. I hope one day we will be able to see that episode in its full uncensored glory. From the looks of it, this will be your finest episode. Until we see the full thing though, it might as well have not been aired.
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby porksoda » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:24 am

Here's the skinny:

The long bleeps at the "what we learned" part was intentionally done by T&M. The bleeps of the "M" word were not intentional, and were made by Comedy Central because one dickhole college student in Virginia named Zack posted addresses of M&T and the CC offices on his blog and suggested that there may be violence.

CC also pulled all future air dates for the episode.

Clearly all it will take is one Muslim, one Scientologist, one Mormon, one Christian, one Jew and one crab person to post a threat on their blog and South Park will be canceled for good.

The proper reaction is for EVERYBODY to create images of the "M" guy and put them everywhere. Not to anger all Muslims, but to show the few Muslims that think that violence is the answer to this act that we aren't scared of them.

Maybe your local stop sign, telephone pole, etc. is a great place to post these images.

Also, let CC know that they are total pussies.
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Re: *1406: 201* Post-Air Discussion

Postby MohammedIsGay » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:26 am

I FUKING HATE WEN THEY ARE FORCED TO BEEP EVERY GOD DAMN THING!

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