*1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

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Stanluv25
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Stanluv25 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:12 pm

@ scRaTcH#667-

I'm not a fan of alcohol or drinking and just don't get it. It is odd to hear that that of all things touched a nerve but some things just do. I'm not picky on things they can and cannot poke fun of but I do not like seeing a child drink. As silly as it does seem.

@ kalbahamut- I know he didn't really have it but was just wondering if that was the thing that caused Mackey to think Stan had it. And if it was I highly doubt he had any further testing or whatever. The school just called Sharon and told her her son has Asperger's and went from there. I saw it but it was kinda silly that's where they went from.

But I lol'ed at Mackey referring to Stan as 'Debbie'! :lol:
I love: Stan, Butters, Cartman, Sharon.

I ship: Stan/Cartman <3

Stan: MMOOMM!!
Sharon: What is it honey? (gasp!) My baby's killed again!
Haa, I love that line.
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby 99 i fail » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:33 pm

I was disappointed about how Sharon and Randy just got back together in the end, and that it was sort of sudden. And I am wondering about the alcoholism. Will it maybe be something about him and his father and drugs?

It was relieving, but the end just ruined the whole thing.
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby retrosimplicity » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:55 pm

[quote="99 i fail"]I was disappointed about how Sharon and Randy just got back together in the end, and that it was sort of sudden. And I am wondering about the alcoholism. Will it maybe be something about him and his father and drugs?

Agreed. I would have liked them to take it a bit slower and let the divorce resolve more naturally. I'm not bothered that they got back together, it just felt rushed and a bit lazy even. But, it does spike a lot of new questions anyway. I really think it'd be interesting if Sharon and Randy showed on screen to tackle marital problems when they get back together, for realism's sake.

As far as the alcoholism thing, that's interesting. It could be about Stan and Randy, as Randy has alcoholic tendancies anyway. But knowing this is South Park it's probably just another joke that won't get brought up again.

I'm really interested though about Stan and his cynism. If they are going to add that as a new character trait or not. I sort of hope not, in a way, because it would change the series and his character entirely, which is easy to mess up.

But whatever they decide to do with this, I personally just hope that Stan's cynism and his parent's divorce aren't just dropped completely. As far as the alcoholism thing, I wouldn't really mind. I don't really get why that was taken so seriously actually. It's just a typical South Park joke, not nearly as deep as the other topics in this episode and I wouldn't be surprised if this was the last time it was mentioned. But, the cynism and divorce were huge elements of this episode and the last episode. If they eventually make everyone hold hands and sing and get the show back to normal, I'll be happy. I just don't want this to never be mentioned again. That'd just seem kind of awkward.
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby JVM » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:00 am

I'd like to apologize for my behavior last night.

Generally with *every* new episode I hate it from the first go and need to rewatch it once or twice to really understand and enjoy it. I commented here before watching it a second time and, in typical fashion, let my emotions get ahead of me. My reaction was rude and uncalled for, and while I don't think it excuses a few of the responses I received in this thread, I have to atone for what I said. I'm sure I'm about to get called a complete pussy for apologizing, but it had to be done.

It's not a bad episode, but I will say it was overstuffed and should've been split up into multiple episodes. There was too much going on and it didn't balance very well.

Since I've already whined about what I didn't like, here's what I did enjoy: the Terra Nova spoof, Stan's speeches, the initial board meeting of the fast food guys, the shoot-out, Steamy Ray Vaughn, and of course, Duck President. I'd normally love seeing Wendy but I know her mere presence has a habit of inciting anger in SP fans.

By the way, anyone else notice City Wok's logo is on the fast food groups' board along with their own logos?

Or that Grampa seems to have finally succumbed to old age?

Agreed. I would have liked them to take it a bit slower and let the divorce resolve more naturally.

In the "60 Minutes" video Trey basically gives away the ending to this episode but said "at the end of the run".
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Brendle » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:15 am

cynthia325 wrote:
Brendle wrote:The aspie kids on this message board being offended is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS.

All of you who got offended are idiots. Matt and Trey are making light of the disease because they're amused by the name sounding like "Ass Burgers." That's all it is. They even spell it out in the episode: "Unfortunately because of its name people think it's a disease to be made fun of." They're basically saying they're doing the wrong thing by making fun of it.

The guy who pisses on everyone...that sh*t is deliberately ridiculous. You people shouldn't even be fans of South Park: they are equal opportunity offenders. Nobody, no, not even you and your little disease, is off limits.

This episode was disappointing. I was excited when Stan finally embraced change: I thought it was going to be a new chapter of South Park. Unfortunately, Matt/Trey pussed out and went back to the regular show.

I agree with everything except for the episode being disappointing... I love each and every episode just because they make me laugh... there I said it; it's that simple.

Well, I'll clarify: the direction Matt and Trey took disappointed me (which was...no direction at all, to keep things the same). I would have preferred Stan to leave South Park and meet new people.

But the episode itself was funny in parts. The Dutch oven joke...hilarious. Classic South Park: adults being stupid, failing to understand that the secret recipe is a kid putting the burgers in his ass.

The duck-president signing the paper by sh*tting on it was pretty funny. And the alcohol gag was good...I've always thought about doing that gag. The way they treated it like a Matrix situation was amusing. Hmm...what else was funny? I guess the way M&T sh*t all over fans like myself who wanted change by laughing in our faces with the Landslide montage. Randy appearing out of nowhere and announcing they're getting back together was pretty funny.

Pip Tweek, I don't think the "not understanding subtle nuances" excuse should fly. JVM is an intelligent guy and I've seen him "get" and understand all the other South Park episodes.

The reality was, M&T were deliberately exaggerating the behavior/symptoms of people with Asperger's for comic effect, with people being ridiculous and pissing on everyone they see. They admit that they're not portraying people with Asperger's realistically, but what can you expect when the name is so stupid and "mean"? That's all it was.

And yet everybody flipped out. JVM, kfgg, and a host of other people. Amusing to watch. Probably the first time in their life that THEY were the target (well...not really...but on the surface they were). That's what satire should do. It should make EVERYBODY uncomfortable and vulnerable, even the fans of the show.

Matt/Trey have said numerous times they don't just attack things for the hell of it. The aspies didn't "get" it not necessarily because they can't see nuances (that's patronizing...JVM is smart), but because maybe seeing a blown-up caricature of an Aspie in a cartoon hit a nerve and they reacted emotionally.
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby RichardV1150 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:49 am

Here's how I see Matt and Trey's view on South Park, their feelings based on the episode outcomes. Okay, so I think Sharron is a big voice for Matt and Trey, they both said it themselves in an interview on Jon Stewart. So Sharron in "You're getting old" said things need to change, now she is depressed saying you should stick with what you know. THIS can very well mean M&T wanted to change South Park, but then realized it's just not what they do. I see them looking at something and figuring out how the hell they get out of a given situation.

Thus, the whole 360 spin and then back makes the episode make sense. You see M&T don't want to change their "baby". I guess they would rather run it into the ground like "The SImpsons" than make it into something big. I just hope if they are going to do that, that they don't reap what they sew. We all remember "Cartoon Wars 1&2" to "200 and 201". You know those two sound like conservative republicans, always afraid of what is going to change. My advice, "Act your age, and grow up already, you don't have to think how not to screw up South Park, or think, oh you're f*cked." "Stress may be a huge thing to get over, but with a little faith and promise, anything can happen, just remember, even a miracle needs a hand."
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby IAmTheBatdad » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:22 am

Upon watching last night's episode I really didn't know how to feel. I guess I was expecting a little more development with Stan's story, rather than the quick resolution. That being said, the episode was pretty funny. At first I thought it was so so but the more I thought about it the more I appreciated this episode. The "Whatever, f*ck you" bits were particularly funny.
I think the "Ass Burgers" thing was really the main focus and that Stan's story was just there to satisfy the cliffhanger. It was as if Trey and Matt wanted to get things back to normal without much hassle. If that were the case though then why not utilize the sudden ending with some comic relief, instead of the (in my opinion) very depressing final scene?
I would have liked to have seen Stan realize that things aren't as sh*tty as they seem. Then something like:

Kyle: "Dude, you don't find things sh*tty anymore!? That's great and all but...why the sudden change? It doesn't really make any sense."
Stan: "Yeah well like, sense, nonsense, whatever, f*ck you."

Given the current ending though, I would like to see a little more resolution between Kyle and Stan. As of right now its as if their relationship is something of a sham, which is way too depressing for me.
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby TheJOJ96 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:29 am

When will this episode be uncensored?
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby whatwouldwedo W/o SP » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:01 am

God, that was f*cking hilarious. I'm not sure if this is offensive or wrong but Stan drunk was hilarious. I had a similar childhood experience in which me and friends got drunk very young just one time. ( it was halarious because we were all good kids and we wernt drunk we just wanted to pretend basically) I can remember telling friends how I loved them and wanted to move away with them! Gawd my dad beat me so hard that night. I guess what am looking at here is that me being still a tad younger (just guessing) than everyon here. I can remember 4th grade. I remember antics. Talking dirty. Finding out what...well.....uhh....*cough Porn *cough was. This is why I love south park the little things that help me feel happy inside again.
Ahhhhh hamburgerss!
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Pre-Air Discussion

Postby Xailvo » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:11 am

ClydeFrog4Prez wrote:So now stan's an alcoholic?


Thats what getting me on the edge of my seat! God these new episodes are so intense. i wonder how long they're gonna keep this going. maybe for the rest of the season? uh oh...
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby Xailvo » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:15 am

IAmTheBatdad wrote:Upon watching last night's episode I really didn't know how to feel. I guess I was expecting a little more development with Stan's story, rather than the quick resolution. That being said, the episode was pretty funny. At first I thought it was so so but the more I thought about it the more I appreciated this episode. The "Whatever, f*ck you" bits were particularly funny.
I think the "Ass Burgers" thing was really the main focus and that Stan's story was just there to satisfy the cliffhanger. It was as if Trey and Matt wanted to get things back to normal without much hassle. If that were the case though then why not utilize the sudden ending with some comic relief, instead of the (in my opinion) very depressing final scene?
I would have liked to have seen Stan realize that things aren't as sh*tty as they seem. Then something like:

Kyle: "Dude, you don't find things sh*tty anymore!? That's great and all but...why the sudden change? It doesn't really make any sense."
Stan: "Yeah well like, sense, nonsense, whatever, f*ck you."

Given the current ending though, I would like to see a little more resolution between Kyle and Stan. As of right now its as if their relationship is something of a sham, which is way too depressing for me.



See thats exactly what i felt when i saw the ending. i was hoping for a smile to come on stans face, but when i didnt see it, i got worried. Hes still not happy, and still isnt the way he used to be, so i really hope they fix it alittle more than that, cause that doesnt work for me. haha
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby John_117 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:21 am

TheJOJ96 wrote:When will this episode be uncensored?

Not anytime soon.

ON TOPIC: Since now Stan's cynicism's been resolved, and since his life is back to normal, I wonder what happens now.
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby whatwouldwedo W/o SP » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:28 am

So here is the REVIEW!

1st of just a halarious episode, beyond funny. The "they should just f*ck and get over with line was priceless (especially with all the crazy kyle x Wendy fans)
Every joke hit. From that stand point a pure(and I don't do this often) 10/10

Now the tough part.... This will provost be a wall but stick with me, it's worth it!
I am soo very disappointed.... Why you may ask? The devolopement. So they pulled the 360 back to 1506 episode. Which is exactly what I didn't want them to do.

It was so close it was in grasp. Stans speech was perfect. It could all change. Yet it could still be south park! Let's face it people, no matter how many times M&T deny it. They are starting to get bored with SP. It needed change! It was like that was the plan the whole time. Then M&T just pussied out and said leave it the same it's decent that way.

The shallow fans will love this. The fans that enjoy development. Not so much /: I truly am disappointed. Even M&T expressed through Sharon "" that even if something is sh*tty stick with what you know."".

It's almost as if something is stoping them from changing SP. Like they want to but are to afraid. But I hope to Gawd they do!
Right now south park is a 9/10 show
They need to take that chance. TREY NEEDS TO MAKE THAT STEP!
They don't understand what they have here. It's more than an average animated comedy. They have fans like no other. They have a following. A religion if you will. This is South park. And although a lot of ppl tune into to see Randy and cartmen do stupid deep sh*t. Many people want to have a deeper meaning the episode that make you smile. Not laugh. The friendship the youthful feeling. And Trey need to take that blind leap of faith. South park is winding down. We all know it won't/shouldn't last 30 years.
all I can say is
M&T go for it. Take the jump and aim 4 the bushes. The fans will always b here

Do not be afraid.
Ahhhhh hamburgerss!
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby John_117 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:31 am

JVM wrote:I'd normally love seeing Wendy but know her mere presence has a habit of inciting anger in SP fans.

Just ignore them. You should know by now they're nothing but idiots.
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Re: *1508: Ass Burgers* Post-Air Discussion

Postby atqrqrz » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:36 am

Kfgg, shut the f*ck up... seriously

Your gay ass paragraphs about you bitching about aspergers and how gay you are for stan and kyle was the lamest things I read in a while

I like how you get butthurt when people barely even said anything about you when whatever they said is the truth anyway...
I feel sorry for everyone you know in real life if you act like this towards them

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