I understand why they had to kill off his character, but in such an inhumane way? No. I was pissed when I saw that episode.
Don't get me wrong, I like morbid sh*t.. but not this way. Chef was a loved character in South Park, in in a way, one of.. if not.. THE most important character. He was featured in almost every episode and let's face it.. He was awesome!
I think he diserves alot more respect than what he recieved.
It would have been a much better episode if he simply died of AIDS or something.. where he lays in a hospital bed and just slowly closes his eyes, and the doctor says "I'm sorry boys... he's gone" and Stan says something like "no.. No he can't be gone!!" and the boys cry for a while over the death of their friend, and then they hold a funeral with his body actually in the damn cascit, all in one piece.. instead of just a damn bloody spatula. (wich didn't make sence anyway because he didn't have his spatula with him when he died).
then the rest of the funeral went as follows.
Kyle says "We shouldn't be mad at Chef for leaving us.. we should be happy that he's in a better place now. We shouldn't blame him for this. Perhaps we should blame the doctors. Or the scientists for not being able to find a cure.
In times like this we always look for someone to put the blame on.. but it's nobody's fault. Sometimes, we have to deal with losses. Death is a part of life. We will miss you, Chef. You were a big inspiration in my life. Goodbye, my friend."
THAT would make for a perfect end to Chef. If they had to kill him off, why couldn't they have done that? That took me 5 minutes to think of.
Oh.. and why weren't his parents at his funeral?
I agree with GB, sorta. In his first statement, yes. For god's sake, a beloved character for nine seasons straight, and you make him go out like [i:02882]that[/i:02882]? It was a great episode, but seriously, that death scene was a tad too extreme for my liking.
But dying of AIDS? Come on, that would be WAY too predictable. And the spatula was a symbolization of him being a cafeteria chef, I liked that part. The funeral was nicely done. And GB, part of the speech you wrote up doesn't match with the real situation. If he died of AIDS, there would be no reason to be mad at him. In the actual episode, though, there was, because he willingly went back to the other side. And saying it was nobody's fault? Wouldn't be parallel to the real life situation, in which case it's Scientology's fault. It was more of a perfect allegory the way it was done, I just think it could've been less brutal.
And I'm also getting kinda tired of the whole "why weren't his parents at his funeral? why weren't his parents at his funeral?" thing. They may not have heard, nobody may have thought to contact them (few people in South Park really ever interacted with them, and Chef's death would have been such a big shock to easily make them forget), or they just simply may not have been able to make it in time, or, fall all we know, they themselves may already be dead. In real life situation thought Matt and Trey probably just forgot. They were only used in two episodes. :|
Hayes being a hypocrite sure did suck, yeah, but (and correct me if I'm wrong), I don't recall hearing an official statement from [i:02882]him himself[/i:02882]. That makes all the difference with Scientology involved and everything. He had a stroke a few months before that, was he really in a good position and condition to quit like that? Has he been seen in public since? I know that was a topic of discussion before, too. That and, after the episode initially aired, Hayes himself said, and there is audio footage of it out there, that he knows that that's what Matt and Trey do, he was totally okay by it, and just pretty much laughed it off. Maybe I'm just being naive but randomly popping up a few months later saying that you quit due to religious intolerance doesn't really fit to me, and I do not think that Hayes himself willingly in sound state of mind quit, and that Scientology probably did it for him (what better way to get back at a show that just majorly dissed you by removing one of its beloved voice actors? Scientology is too uptight and weak, so it actually has to take a cartoon seriously). Conspiracy theories ahoy!, but I'm going with them.
Chef should not be brought back, though. Not with a different voice actor or anything. If the whole mess gets cleared up and Hayes ultimately ends up returning, awesome. But they should at least respect the character to retire him fully. I don't want to see Darth Chef ever again. That would just make things worse.
... That always ends up happening. Whenever a voice actor dies, the characters are retired without a scene, but whenever a voice actor quits, the characters are killed off. Kinda funny.
iceiwynd wrote: I don't want to see Darth Chef ever again. That would just make things worse.
I'm glad to see that someone thinks the same way I do on that.
Darth Chef was an insult. It's like after they brutally killed him, they pulled down their pants and pissed on him. That's what Darth Chef was. A final "f*ck you". And I didn't like that at all. Also, it kind of killed one of the best movie scenes in history. Even if you didn't like Revenge of the Sith, you gotta admit.. the scene where Anakin was on the table, and they put the mask on his face, and then that recognizable heavy breathing started.. was pretty damn cool!
Anyway I'm getting off scene trying to convice people that Star Wars is actaully cool. Sorry about that. (episodes 1 and 2 sucked ass though)
Gothic_Butters wrote:Darth Chef was an insult. It's like after they brutally killed him, they pulled down their pants and pissed on him. That's what Darth Chef was. A final "f*ck you".
I didn't see it that way, I just thought that was a nice parody that furthered the point (good to evil). I said that I never want to see Darth Chef again because Isaac Hayes is Chef, and unless he comes back, neither Chef nor Darth Chef should be around. Maybe a cameo, whatever, but no speaking roles or active parts in a plot.
I liked the Darth Chef thing, but I, too, never want to see Darth Chef again unless Isaac returns to the show and they do an episode in which Chef is turned to normal again. And yes, Star Wars Episodes 1 and 2 suck, but the rest of the series isn't bad. I'm not a fanatic, but I did kinda like Episode 3.
The death was overdone, though. I expected him to die, so I wasn't that upset, but a bear, a lion and a huge fall onto a stick? That's ridiculous. That was way too much. It had a good reference to another episode afterwards, but that was the only funny part.
As for Darth Chef, I think he should just be used in case Isaac comes back as many people have said. He shouldn't be voiced by anyone else. I think that would be a "f*ck you" to Isaac. I think that's why they made Darth Chef. It was just to keep the whole thing open for Chef to come back.
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Chef's death was too brutal. I agree completely with that. He could have just fallen off the bridge, and be done. There wasn't a need for the lion and the bear. It was unnecessarily long, and it seemed like it dragged on forever.
I wouldn't say Darth Chef was a disgrace, he was just something to keep the spot open. If anything, it was a tribute to Isaac. They were basically saying that if he wanted to come back, he could. Darth Chef hasn't been used yet, so that's what I'm assuming it's for.
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Kyle's speech at the end was a nice way to quickly even things out. I guess the death was a bit of an initial reaction to it all: Voice actor of a beloved character quits in a totally hypocritical way, and all thanks to some piece of sh*t "religion" that they finally just got around to sticking it to. So yeah, they would be pissed over that, but I find it a bit odd how quickly they're able to suddenly turn the whole thing around and go back to a calmer, more rational state at his funeral.
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