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iceiwynd
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Postby iceiwynd » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:25 pm

I think I'm just gonna go and agree with what Oneirogenic says: She's good at putting her thoughts into words.
Clowncatcher
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Postby Clowncatcher » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:38 am

You both make valid arguements. I think it's a shame that people consider hetrosexuality as superior but it happens anyway. However, I dont think that this is intentional. I think straight people just have a natural discomfort for gays.
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Postby Athena1999 » Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:02 am

Clowncatcher wrote:You both make valid arguements. I think it's a shame that people consider hetrosexuality as superior but it happens anyway. However, I dont think that this is intentional. I think straight people just have a natural discomfort for gays.


About that last statement-- I don't exactly disagree, but at the same time I don't agree, either. It just depends on the environment in which we're brought up, actually. But there are some people who are comfortable around all types of people. I mean, you're looking at someone who works with disabled children and was an officer of the high school's multicultural alliance last year. It all depends on how much people are willing to open their minds.

But yes, I agree that it is sad that people consider heterosexuality "superior" to homosexuality, just as others consider being Caucasian "superior" to being African-American, or being Christian is "superior" to being Jewish or Muslim. And no one should be superior to anyone else; we're all human and created equal.

Actually, that reminds me...

10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage Is Wrong

1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5) Straight marriage would be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Brittany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8 ) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.


Thank you, Rusty! ^____^

EDIT: Whoa, what a tangent we went off on!
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Postby Clowncatcher » Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:40 pm

Lol the 10 reasons thing is brilliant :lol:
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Postby Athena1999 » Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:16 pm

^Thanks. I didn't write them, though.
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Postby Oneirogenic » Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:44 pm

XD Hehe~ I had those posted in my livejournal a few months back. THE LOGIC, IT IS MOST ENLIGHTENING.
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Postby Kyle the Skeptic » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:16 pm

I saw that one a few months back on a skeptic site I frequented. The topic was religious fundamentalism, or something like that. I of course had already devised an even more inflammatory list attacking religiously motivated homophobes, the specifics of which I need not go into here. :)
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Postby Cedric Digsby » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:08 am

As part of my job as an interpreter, I've just taken statements from a few boys who were among the victims of a recently arrested child molester [related news item below]. They mentioned that he had downloaded online sex fantasies from his computer and then had the boys act them out while he filmed them. Hence I remain repulsed by those of you who write, post and fantasize about child sex. It's wrong [see Nambla episode]. And it's got nothing to do with homosexuality. Cheerio. No need for inane replies saying "but the South Park boys aren't real; and besides, they act like adults". The aim of South Park is to induce laughter (and sometimes a glib socio-political lesson is thrown in), not to provide sexual gratification. Hopefully this thread (if not put into Fan Fic) will now be long enough to be relegated to the BBS backwater known as "Hot Topics", where other popular mindless kiddy threads end up.

Foreigner arrested for making child porn videos
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta

Jakarta Police have detained a foreign national for allegedly producing sexually explicit videos involving street children. The man, who police identified as British-Australian citizen Peter W. Smith, was arrested at his South Jakarta home Saturday morning. Police seized a handycam, a computer and several videos allegedly containing pornographic images of children.

Police said the 48-year-old English language teacher coaxed the boys to his home with promises of jobs. "He admitted that he had persuaded the street children to come to his house by telling them he would give them jobs in his house for Rp 50,000 (US$5.50) a day," criminal department head Sr. Comr. Moch Jaelani said Tuesday.

"When the children were inside his home, he ordered them to undress and masturbate, while he taped the activities on video or DVD."

The suspect said he paid them from Rp 35,000 to Rp 100,000. Police have received reports from 11 minors. Among them was a 15-year-old teenager who said he and seven other residents of a street children's shelter in South Jakarta were abused.

Police said that Smith, a resident of Jakarta since 1999, told them he began making the films in 2000. He confessed to filming at least 50 boys aged from 14 to 18 years.
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Postby iceiwynd » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:25 am

I thought it was already mentioned on here, but if it hasn't, then I'll say it (at least for myself): slash =/= smut. Yes, there is such thing as slash smut in fanfiction, just as there is with heterosexual stuff. People write porn. For myself at least, though (and I'm pretty sure that at least one other person here as said it, too), I never write smut. Just because there's a slashfic does not make it inclined to have gay sex written in it. There are plenty of romance fics out there that have absolutely nothing to do sex. Slash counts in that, too.

So why blame it all on slash? I'll say it again, there's also plenty of heterosexual South Park sex written in fanfiction.
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Postby Clowncatcher » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:33 pm

Cedric Digsby you are a wanker. Just f*ck off or else come to Ireland so i can personally kick the sh*t out of you :D

I find it hilarious that you are so clueless that you post about petophilia in a slash topic. If you had any f*cking brain you would know that the 2 are completely unrelated. It's basically like going into a vegetable shop and trying to buy a TV.

Geez what a douche :roll:
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Postby CartmanMills » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:48 pm

They mentioned that he had downloaded online sex fantasies from his computer and then had the boys act them out while he filmed them. Hence I remain repulsed by those of you who write, post and fantasize about child sex.


Clown, that was his point. He's not a "f*cking idiot" or whatever. He was making the point that this guy went online, found these slashes and then made the kids act them out while filming them.

If you had any f*cking brain you would know that the 2 are completely unrelated.


No, they're not. The slash is kids, not over 18, not around 16 years old or so. They're not technically adults which means the people involved (Stan, Kyle etc) ARE kids.

You didn't need to call him a "f*cking idiot" just because he stated something that you didn't agree with.
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Postby Athena1999 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:54 pm

Cedric, just watch the f*cking show. You are comparing slash authors to child molesters, but what about Trey and Matt? Shouldn't you put them in that category as well? Just watch "Cartman Joins NAMBLA" or "Bebe's Boobs Destroy Society" or, most of all, "Erection Day." Seriously... Wendy getting breast implants? Jimmy losing his virginity? Trey and Matt have already put the kids in these kinds of sexual situations. If you call us pedophiles/child molesters, you are saying the same thing about the creators of SP.

And keep in mind that a large percentage of slash authors are under 18.

And I agree with Lior-- slash =/= smut, just like het =/= smut. Yes, there are people who write smutty slash and smutty het, but why single out the slash authors?

Plus, you have to keep in mind that on sites like FanFiction.Net, there are slashfics about other shows than South Park that portray kids as adults and put them in sex scenes. Let's see... does Harry Potter ring a bell? That fandom is a smut cesspool, which is why I choose to steer clear of it.

Cedric, you don't exactly make the best interpreter under the sun, if you think this way about slash authors.
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Postby kfgg » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:09 pm

I don't think its as much that as it is "the slash is going to cause more people to do what that sick guy did."

What people fail to realize is the vast majority of people who like South Park slash and probably slash in general are not sickos like this dude, and are between the ages of 13 and 18 and they likely want to write and read stories about people their own age.

Regardless of what that guy read, he would have done what he did anyway one way or the other. Because he is sick.
Stan and Kyle :)
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Postby corpsman32 » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:11 pm

kfgg wrote:Regardless of what that guy read, he would have done what he did anyway one way or the other. Because he is sick.

Well said. Just because one guy who views these slashes is messed up in the head does not mean everyone who views these slashes are also messed up.
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Postby Clowncatcher » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:28 pm

I agree. Also I know my previous post was more of a personal attack on Cedric than a debate so I shall apologize. I still think he's a dick though.

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