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On top of that Tweek was talking in Kyle's voice for the most part, and Halloween was completely ignored.
Meh.
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I'm a music (and moreso radio) geek and over the last 14 years or so South Park helped fuel that passion with stuff like this.
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10/10, would ship again.
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Well, they did kill Reality last week...VACOOLA wrote:Well, as the title suggests, this was once again supposed to be an episode exploring the mechanisms of peer pressure, but on a completely new level, where peer pressure becomes even pee-er. I mean, literally: first Cupid Me pees in your mouth, then you are suddenly all gay and supportive. It would have probably made more sense if they gave us some explanation to this absurdly overstretched PC mass hypnosis. Like, it's all aliens' fault (are you still there doing your usual stuff, FOGNL?), or maybe that Crab People are behind this madness. But no, we just have to go with the flow. Oh, and Mayor McDaniels was a lousy substitute for Mr. Adler with his hillariously tragic love story.
And that's two weeks detention for you, young man.triplemultiplex wrote:Well that was odd. They basically had everyone telling Tweek and Craig they were gay so often that they finally said, "F*ck it, I guess we're gay."
Which is not how it works.
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Yeah, they did kill him, there's no denying it. Except I didn't think Reality was all that real. I thought he was more like the town's collective Cupid Me or something.nall wrote:Well, they did kill Reality last week....VACOOLA wrote:Well, as the title suggests, this was once again supposed to be an episode exploring the mechanisms of peer pressure, but on a completely new level, where peer pressure becomes even pee-er. I mean, literally: first Cupid Me pees in your mouth, then you are suddenly all gay and supportive. It would have probably made more sense if they gave us some explanation to this absurdly overstretched PC mass hypnosis. Like, it's all aliens' fault (are you still there doing your usual stuff, FOGNL?), or maybe that Crab People are behind this madness. But no, we just have to go with the flow. Oh, and Mayor McDaniels was a lousy substitute for Mr. Adler with his hillariously tragic love story.

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I was hoping that Reality was going be a fiction of imagination that everyone who went ultra-PC would see, being a stand in for their conscience (or lack of one). Definitely became popular quickly for being the first character to hit back at the PC elitists and make them realize that they suck, he needs to make a comeback later on.VACOOLA wrote: Yeah, they did kill him, there's no denying it. Except I didn't think Reality was all that real. I thought he was more like the town's collective Cupid Me or something.
Totally called it on pre-air for PC Principal giving Tweek and Craig crap for not wanting to be labelled as a gay couple, but since he is so one-dimensional as a character it wasn't that hard to guess.
Not sure what the handing of money to them was for, was it hush money to stop them from speaking out against the labelling, or encouraging them to be more 'gay' for the happiness of others?
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Now I see all these posters confusing "shounen-ai" with "yaoi". And since I got my folks into SP, now I'm gonna have to hear their questions as well.

Someone on the pre-air thread tried to explain yaoi as being known as "boy's love", which was what they stated in the episode. Except I hate to say...
Yaoi is the hard stuff. Yaoi IS the slash/lemon anime-styled male on male porno.
Shounen-ai is the fluffy, lovey stuff. This is the term which literally translates to "boy's love" in Japanese... Yaoi, as it's known in the west, is oftentimes just one huge category amateur artists like to throw all their "bishounen" into.
Some users speculate (probably due to earlier eps) that the creators know a lot about the culture and whatnot. That's kinda why it's a bit disappointing. This form of pornography has exploded onto western chicks (and guys) like an atom bomb. If the point was to highlight how open one culture is with sexuality while our own just "doesn't get it", then call this ep a winner.
But, if fudging up the basic terminology was simply due to ignorance on their part, and/or proposing it as a laughable "passing whim" for prepubescents, then they're so far off the mark on making a realistic statement that I'd have to give a thumbs down.
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I think it's encouragement, as the prohibitions are no longer in place and it's up to the newly-open gay person to own it.djdomain wrote:Not sure what the handing of money to them was for, was it hush money to stop them from speaking out against the labelling, or encouraging them to be more 'gay' for the happiness of others?
The wiki for "yaoi" uses both definitions, and which one applies depends on where you are.LaLiari wrote:Some users speculate (probably due to earlier eps) that the creators know a lot about the culture and whatnot. That's kinda why it's a bit disappointing. This form of pornography has exploded onto western chicks (and guys) like an atom bomb. If the point was to highlight how open one culture is with sexuality while our own just "doesn't get it", then call this ep a winner.
But, if fudging up the basic terminology was simply due to ignorance on their part, and/or proposing it as a laughable "passing whim" for prepubescents, then they're so far off the mark on making a realistic statement that I'd have to give a thumbs down.
While yaoi has become an umbrella term in the West for women's manga or Japanese-influenced comics with male-male relationships, and it is the term preferentially used by American manga publishers for works of this kind...
Japan uses the term yaoi to denote dōjinshi and works that focus on sex scenes.
South Park being an American show, Trey would use the Western definition for yaoi.
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It will? Excuse me while I make certain people watch it.JamesPup wrote: I know not to watch this episode too much or it will make me gay.
Goddammit! Why won't Professor Chaos laughing emoji work?!
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Probably 8/10...at LEAST. If only the whole season was at least this good.
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Aw man! Now I'm gonna get grounded!nall wrote:And that's two weeks detention for you, young man.triplemultiplex wrote:Well that was odd. They basically had everyone telling Tweek and Craig they were gay so often that they finally said, "F*ck it, I guess we're gay."
Which is not how it works.

By far the best scene was the faux-breakup. Craig being utterly blindsided by Tweek's good acting was excellent.
I wonder if anyone on the forum got their art into the episode?
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this was another funny episode but also very deep, like so often happens with south park. i liked how other people re-discovered their feelings after seeing tweek and craig: accepting other people's love helps you accept your own feelings more openly.
i love when "minor" characters have more space in this show, because they have so much potential and this episode shows that with the psychological insight: tweek lacks self-confidence and craig helps him with that (although that wasn't his main purpose); and craig, too, understands that tweek needs a friend and at some point he doesn't even care what people think of him. i see that as the begin of a strong friendship.
as usual, kyle is the one that focuses the things and understands that yaoi is just something made from girls for girls (and lately not only asian girls, i know of a danish woman who is much into that). as a big lover of mangas (although yaoi is not my cup of tea), i can add that picking up random guys and "making them gay" (because for some reason it is believed that those two work well in a gay relationship) is more specifically typical of fujoshi culture (look up google for that), so it is more a subgenre of yaoi.
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