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Postby billvmc2000 » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:51 pm

SaveYrGeneration wrote:Tugger please take your left vs right paradigm someplace else (like FOX news they LOVE that kind of talk)

however here we are discussing FACTS like how fire has never once caused the collapse of a steel structured building but on 9/11 it happened THRICE

and one time in particular (wtc 7) NO PLANE EVEN HIT THE BUILDING!

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so try to explain away that with your silly democrat vs republican BS which is nothing more than a distraction for feeble minded imbeciles who can't think critically enough to see that maybe both sides are working against us to pass Draconian legislation in order to turn america into POLICE STATE.

only respond if you care to discuss facts, don't bother spewing your worthless opinions.



You're an idiot. The facts have been discussed. The NIST released a 100+ page report on it. EVERY STRUCTURAL ENGINEER IN THE WORLD CONCURS THAT THE PLANE IMPACTS CAUSED THOSE TOWERS TO COLLAPSE, INCLUDING WTC 7

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

Looks like you're one of those 1/4 of Americans who are retarded... retard.
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Postby aoahuj » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:57 am

Many "Retards" say that bush or the republicans carried out 911. That is dumb. Bush himself and the republican high officials probably didnt "plan" and "orchestrate" 911 at the deep base levels. They aren't smart enough to do it without leaking any evidence. Whoever did plan and orchestrate the 911 attacks were able to do it without leaking "any good evidence pointing at, the people who did it, them". It is incredible at how well of a job it was. The 911 truth movement does not have evidence pointing at who CAUSED 911, we only have evidence proving it was a controlled demolition and evidence showing who proffited from it. Footage of the collapse showing obvious controlled demolition, hundreds of eye witnesses stating they heard explosions going off inside the buildings and in / under the lobby every 1-2 minutes, official and accepted eye witness / news reports of large pools of molten 3000+ degrees steel existing underneath ground 0 four weeks after the collapses which could not have existed if bombs weren't used, common scientific sense and calculations that planes crashing into two of the strongest buildings in the world built the way these two were couldnt have caused it to collapse so quickly like that, and evidence of all the past government false flag operations (like USS liberty) proves that the WTC collapses were controlled demolition. That is enough to prove it was an inside job, yet there is ZERO EVIDENCE pointing at who carried out this inside job -

We know that Al-Queda and Osama could not have made NORAD standdown and could not have put thousands of pounds of explosives into the buildings. So we know that the official "planners and doers" of the 911 attacks (Osama / Al-Queda) did not have the ability to do it. We know who didn't do it, but we don't know who did do it.

Also, many "retards" will say that the Jews / Isreal carried out 911. THAT IS FALSE. Isreal does not have the power or inflience to make NORAD standdown. Britian OR Isreal OR Russia OR China couldn't do it. Only smelly fish elements inside our own government with very large amounts of power and controll could carry it out.

However, its 100% fact that the buildings were brought down by demolitions grade explosives (bombs). If you want the evidence I provided it in the first paragraph.


However... Who planted the bombs? Who planed the 911 attacks at the deepest levels? Who orchestrated it? What exactly happened to the original flights?

The 911 truth movement does not know the answers to these questions. all we know is:
1.) The buildings were brought down by bombs (controlled demolition)
2.) bush / cheney / rumsfeld lied about it being caused/planned by Al-Queda or Osama
3.) bush / cheney / rumsfeld lied about fire being the reason the buildings collapsed (never in history, ever, has a modern steel support collumn building collapsed from fire. scientifically impossible at the chances of 1 in a trillion trillion)
4.) bush / cheney / rumsfeld are responsible for killing thousands of soldiers in 2 wars they started that were based on lies.
Those 4 things themself are war crimes of high treason and grounds for impeachment and life imprisonment, even if they didnt orchestrate the 911 attacks completely.




Also, everything I wrote in this post is NOT theory. Everything I wrote in this post is 100% fact.






the best way to wake up to the truth of government is to listen to this man. he does a 3 hour radio show every weekday and its replayed 24 / 7 nonstop every day incase you missed it

>http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls

all you have to do is click that link to listen to him anytime. every monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday a new show will be playing. listen to his show whenever you can
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Re: 9/11 Fact and Coverup Megathread

Postby Dromlarid » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:35 am

Elephantghost wrote:You know, as liberal and or 'open minded' Matt and Trey claim to be


"I hate conservatives, but I really f*cking hate liberals." -Matt Stone

Just so you're aware, Matt and Trey are Libertarians. Oh, and they openly admitted to voting for Bush the first time. For the second election, they said one was voting for Bush the other for Kerry.
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Postby jawmht » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:44 am

Has anyone noticed yet that most the people here, that come he to say that all these "theories"( Actually they aren't even hypothesises because a hypothesis is a educated guess.) usually have less than 10 post? Why you ask? Well, the same reasons they came up with this stupid sh*t, because they have nothing to do in their free time, so they come here just to start a fight.

Just look at that douche bag SaveYRGeneration.

[quote= That douche Bag SaveYRGeneration]don't bother spewing your worthless opinions.[/quote]

I think that that speaks for it self.
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Postby catkiller » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:27 am

SaveYrGeneration wrote:
however here we are discussing FACTS like how fire has never once caused the collapse of a steel structured building but on 9/11 it happened THRICE

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That's not even close to being true. I've seen buildings with steel supported roofs collapse because the fire inside weakened the steel, causing it to sag, thereby pulling the walls down. I have photos of one of them, in fact. Twisted and warped steel girders that pulled the walls of the building down. The building was a bowling alley, with a lot of wood to burn nice and hot. So it isn't at all true that fire never caused a steel structure to collapse, because I've seen it with my own eyes.

Also, I read over and over again that "jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt metal."

While that statement in and of itself is correct, it doesn't stand up with regards to the Trade Center towers.

1. The metal doesn't have to MELT, it only has to be weakened.
2. In the Trade Center towers, there was a lot more than just jet fuel burning. There were tons of wood, paper, plastic, fabrics, and even humans burning, generating more heat, for a longer period of time, than the jet fuel. (which burned off relatively quickly.) More than enough heat to weaken the structure to the point of collapse.


What bothers me though, is some of the features of the buildings. The very narrow stairways, slowing the evacuation. Another is the fact that only one floor out of three had unlocked doors from the stairwells onto the floors of the buildings. Some people ended up having to go back UP to try to find another way out. Some people died because they didn't know that they could easily kick a hole in the sheetrock walls of their office, that bothers me too. My wife called the WTC the "Titanic" of office buildings".

Much has been made of the "disappearance" of Flight 93, in other words there was very little wreckage. Well, the photo attached is of an American Eagle ATR-72 after it iced up over Roselawn, Indiana in October of 94. The flight was in a holding pattern, flying fairly slowly, and lost lift due to ice on wings. It didn't fly into the ground at a very high rate of speed like Flight 93 did.

There's very little left of this ATR-72. It didn't surprise me to see that there was nearly nothing left of Flt. 93. I work in aviation and it always gives me a chill when I bump my head on a plane at work. Happens frequently, since I'm around them all day. Hurts too, because they're big and hard. What chills me is the fact that they turn into confetti when they crash. If you drive one into the ground at full throttle there really won't be much of anything left. There's practically nothing left of this ATR, and it wasn't doing anywhere near the speed of Flt. 93 when it hit the ground.

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Postby SEEKTHETRUTH » Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:51 am

I kinda stopped listening to the baaaaaa of the sheep because its all disinfo and name calling.. but Heres some more intresting links :)

Plans For Iraq Attack Began On 9/11::
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml

some more on that 'youtube' proffessor steven E jones::
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

Some 9/11 families reject federal fund and sue::
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-07-13-911-families-cover-usat_x.htm

Shadow Government Is at Work in Secret::
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A20584-2002Feb28?language=printer

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In Jan., 1933, when Adolf Hitler became chancellor without an absolute majority, the Reichstag was dissolved and new elections were set for Mar. 5; a violent election campaign ensued. On Feb. 27, 1933, a fire destroyed part of the Reichstag building. Hitler immediately accused the Communists of having set the fire. President von Hindenburg proclaimed a state of emergency and issued decrees suspending freedom of speech and assembly. The elections gave a bare majority of seats to Hitler’s National Socialists (Nazis; see National Socialism) and their allies, the German Nationalists. Severe measures were taken against the Communist party, and its deputies were barred from the Reichstag.
The Nazis clearly gained and for that reason were the prime suspects from the first. However given Germany was immediately plunged into a state of total dictatorship it was initially difficult to gather hard evidence. There is circumstantial evidence that points to the Nazis. First van der Lubbe was, in the period, immediately before the fire in the clutches of a couple of a couple of SA men. Karl Ernst head of the SA in Berlin when asked by a fellow Dutch rightist whether his Storm Troopers were responsible for the fire answered "If I said Yes, I'd be a bloody fool, if I said no I'd be a bloody liar."



http://www.oilempire.us/reichstag-fire.html
http://www.notbored.org/reichstag-brule.html

reichstag:9/11 similarities
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_reichstag.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0913-03.htm

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Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job::
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/270605insidejob.htm

Did Jailed 'Spy' In Canada Predict The 911 Attacks On America?::
http://www.rense.com/general15/811.htm

9/ 11 Conspiracy Theorists Thriving::
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2279929

NYC 9-11 Truth Takes Back Ground Zero::
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2004-01-04-groundzero.php

No one was sure if hijackers were on board::
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002-08-12-hijacker-daytwo_x.htm

The creation called Osama::
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2001/09/27/stories/05272524.htm

FBI: Identities of some hijackers in question::
http://usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/20/hijack-id.htm

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[quote=John. F Kennedy]
Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it[/quote]

[quote=Curtis Dall. (FDR's son in law)] "For a long time i felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country. The united staes. But he didnt. Most of his thoughts were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the council on foreign relations-one world money group.The united nations is but a long range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful one-world revolotionaries. Hungry for profit and power.The one-world government leaders and their ever close bankers have now aquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the us. via the creation of the privately owned federal reserve bank"- his book FDR:My exploited father-in-law[/quote]

[quote=Franklin Delano Roosevelt (U.S. president) ]"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of andrew jackson."-1933[/quote]

[quote=James Warburg (Rothschild banking agent)] "We shall have world government whether or not you like it.. by conquest or consent" -1950[/quote]

[quote=William fullbright (US senator)] "the case for government by elites is irrefuteable"-1963[/quote]

[quote=Henry Kissinger ]"Today, america would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order, tomarrow, they will be grateful!. This would especially be true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, wether real or promulogated that threatend our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing man fears is the unknown. when presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by a world government" -1991[/quote]

[quote=Strobe Talbott (FMR. US deputy sec. of state) ]"In the next century, Nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single global authority. National sovereignty wasnt such a great idea after all." -1992[/quote]

[quote=Arthur Schelsinger (U.S. Historian) ]"we are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as words and money" -1995[/quote]
George Washington]
It is not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati and the principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am.
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Postby OnagiPowa » Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:06 am

You forgot to mention the most prominent Nazi/Bush family connection, Prescott Bush, father of GHWB and grandfather to “double ya”.

FOX News Headline: Bush's Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler

President Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html

--Brown Brothers Harriman, Union Banking Corporation linked to Nazi war machine

Six days after Pearl Harbor and the US declaration of war at the end of 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau and US Attorney General Francis Biddle signed the Trading With the Enemy Act, which banned any business interests with US enemies of war. Prescott Bush continued with business as usual, aiding the Nazi invasion of Europe and supplying resources for weaponry that would eventually be turned on American solders in combat against Germany.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti ... nd_Company

Guardian Unlimited headline: How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1 ... 40,00.html

--The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 1, October 10, 2003

After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and US banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his "enemy national" partners.

http://www.nhgazette.com/articles/NN_Bu ... _Link.html


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In the last presidential election both the Republican & Democratic candidates are admitted members of a secret society called Skull & Bones.

Skull and Bones is a US Chapter of an early 1800s German death cult called the Thule society.
- late Dr. Anthony Sutton (PhD, Stanford, economics)

The Thule Society - originally Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum 'Study Group for Germanic Antiquity', was a German occultist and Völkisch group in Munich, notable chiefly as the organization that sponsored the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

Deutsche Arbeiterpartei - The German Workers' Party (German: Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, acronym DAP) was the short-lived predecessor of the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazi Party).

Democracy is an illusion… We are the 4th Reich! Those who appose us shall be laid down in the dust! :twisted: SIG HAIL! :twisted:
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Postby SEEKTHETRUTH » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:41 pm

^^
GREAT ADDITION MY FRIEND..

SO FAR

TRUTHSEEKERS > NONBELIEVERS
George Washington]
It is not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati and the principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am.
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Postby tactmasterzero » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:06 pm

I laughed my ass off watching the urinal deuce episode, but it was kind of a disappointing conclusion.

I'm part of the 1/4 of the population that is considered retarded, so anything I attempt to discuss will just be ignored. What a country!
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Postby KennethTweek » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:20 pm

OnagiPowa wrote:
braddock8 wrote:
OnagiPowa wrote:Your not listening, I'm TELLING YOU, C-R-A-B P-E-O-P-L-E!!!


I don't think I can believe you unless you make a two-hour long internet video with a smug narrator and funky music.



Can I dub the background music from a porno?


Ok that ^^ is the truth!
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Postby MarkyX » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:54 pm

President Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show.


Why don't you name the industrialist?

Fritz Thyssen was the name of the German industrialist that Bush's grandfather funded. There is one catch though: Fritz Thyssen was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war.

Strange you didn't mention that detail :lol:

The rest of the "report" doesn't give any names whatsoever on who funded what. Real credible info there. :roll:
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Postby bsbray » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:06 am

MarkyX wrote:Yes, you are looking at the north side.

Here are two videos on the south side.


All I see is smoke. Ask a firefighter: even puny fires can produce loads of smoke, as smoke is an indication of inefficiences in the chemical reaction as much as anything else (btw, did you know fire is a chemical reaction?).

Flames, fires are what we should be seeing pictures of. Not smoke.

By the way, thanks for admitting that you are calling 9/11 heroes liars.


One man. And if he lied, he is not a hero. Either one or the other, not both.

You forgot the penthouse collapsing, therefore not freefall


Time is not velocity. Time is only a component of velocity, used to measure it in intelligible units. You should've learned that in elementary school.

The building fell at free-fall speed. Not the penthouse. The whole building, external walls, which were held in place by the internal components. Even if the columns under the Penthouse failed first, as NIST suggests, all of the other columns were still intact. Did they provide zero resistance? Because that's exactly what free-fall suggests. Think man. Stop being dense. Steel skyscrapers do not fall into themselves at free-fall speed. THINK.

The source doesn't even prove still that there were false radar blips anyways. You haven't proved that "inject" is truly a false blip. Quote out of context.


"Inject" in terms of a RADAR screen does not seem very vague to me, and apparently not to the editors of that page either. You're just being stubborn now, refusing to reconsider your position on this particular issue. Just drop it if you're going to be an ass.

Too bad the debris wasn't micron-scale particles.


Too bad you don't know what in the hell you are talking about. Read the OSHA study on the WTC collapse debris. They talk about metal dusts, among other things. My point is entirely valid whether you personally accept it or not.

Controlled demolitions don't even turn buildings to dust also, so what you are saying goes against your theory
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No, conventional demolitions don't even do that. So apparently these collapses involved sources of energy much greater than what would have been available even if they were loaded with C4 or other conventional explosives. I guess that just further supports the idea that no explosives were used at all, huh? :lol:

But if you go by his expertise, he states that the WTC 1 and 2 could not be bought down by bombs. So if you are willing to take his testimony on WTC7, you have to take his testimony on WTC 1 and 2. Otherwise, you are simply cherry picking the facts and manipulating a man's opinion, aka Quote Mining.


A man's opinion is not a fact to begin with, so this whole statement is bull. I was not posting it because I agree with everything the man thinks.


I guess you're going to say I failed to meet your requirement of providing ONE structural engineer that agrees, because I offered five (or six if you want) instead?
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Postby budha » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:58 am

aoahuj wrote:Many "Retards" say that bush or the republicans carried out 911. That is dumb. Bush himself and the republican high officials probably didnt "plan" and "orchestrate" 911 at the deep base levels. They aren't smart enough to do it without leaking any evidence. Whoever did plan and orchestrate the 911 attacks were able to do it without leaking "any good evidence pointing at, the people who did it, them". It is incredible at how well of a job it was. The 911 truth movement does not have evidence pointing at who CAUSED 911, we only have evidence proving it was a controlled demolition and evidence showing who proffited from it. Footage of the collapse showing obvious controlled demolition, hundreds of eye witnesses stating they heard explosions going off inside the buildings and in / under the lobby every 1-2 minutes, official and accepted eye witness / news reports of large pools of molten 3000+ degrees steel existing underneath ground 0 four weeks after the collapses which could not have existed if bombs weren't used, common scientific sense and calculations that planes crashing into two of the strongest buildings in the world built the way these two were couldnt have caused it to collapse so quickly like that, and evidence of all the past government false flag operations (like USS liberty) proves that the WTC collapses were controlled demolition. That is enough to prove it was an inside job, yet there is ZERO EVIDENCE pointing at who carried out this inside job -

We know that Al-Queda and Osama could not have made NORAD standdown and could not have put thousands of pounds of explosives into the buildings. So we know that the official "planners and doers" of the 911 attacks (Osama / Al-Queda) did not have the ability to do it. We know who didn't do it, but we don't know who did do it.

Also, many "retards" will say that the Jews / Isreal carried out 911. THAT IS FALSE. Isreal does not have the power or inflience to make NORAD standdown. Britian OR Isreal OR Russia OR China couldn't do it. Only smelly fish elements inside our own government with very large amounts of power and controll could carry it out.

However, its 100% fact that the buildings were brought down by demolitions grade explosives (bombs). If you want the evidence I provided it in the first paragraph.


However... Who planted the bombs? Who planed the 911 attacks at the deepest levels? Who orchestrated it? What exactly happened to the original flights?

The 911 truth movement does not know the answers to these questions. all we know is:
1.) The buildings were brought down by bombs (controlled demolition)
2.) bush / cheney / rumsfeld lied about it being caused/planned by Al-Queda or Osama
3.) bush / cheney / rumsfeld lied about fire being the reason the buildings collapsed (never in history, ever, has a modern steel support collumn building collapsed from fire. scientifically impossible at the chances of 1 in a trillion trillion)
4.) bush / cheney / rumsfeld are responsible for killing thousands of soldiers in 2 wars they started that were based on lies.
Those 4 things themself are war crimes of high treason and grounds for impeachment and life imprisonment, even if they didnt orchestrate the 911 attacks completely.




Also, everything I wrote in this post is NOT theory. Everything I wrote in this post is 100% fact.






the best way to wake up to the truth of government is to listen to this man. he does a 3 hour radio show every weekday and its replayed 24 / 7 nonstop every day incase you missed it

>http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls

all you have to do is click that link to listen to him anytime. every monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday a new show will be playing. listen to his show whenever you can




Your right. And Osama just jumped at the chance to take credit in the attacks, without actually being apart of the attacks, so Bush would ask Congress to attack him and his Iraqi buddy...

BUT I sympothize with you... having your head up your ass must really suck.

Matt and Trey nailed it, 1/4 of the nation is retarded.
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Postby MrSpkr » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:57 am

OnagiPowa wrote:
iskmodnad wrote:They do have a point, 1/4 of america is retarted. This thread proves it.


Denial’s a bitch, go read the Patriot Acts and HR6166 yourself

You're one of those idiots who think that the UPC stickers on the backs of traffic signs are secret instructions for an invading UN army, aren't you?

BTW, I have read the Patrior Acts. Nothing particularly alarming in them.
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Postby OnagiPowa » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:10 am

Picking cherries and sarcastic smileys won’t save you this time…

My quotes from sourcewatch and The New Hampshire Gazette stated that he continued his business even after Thyssen was out of the picture and even after Roosevelt, Morgenthau & Biddle signed the Trading With the Enemy Act in 1941 which was over 3 years after Thyssen’s arrest.

I can play that game too… not the cherry picking, the “why didn’t you name that guy” defense…

How bout Herbert Walker, father in-law to Prescott Bush, and the guy who got him started in the business.

George Herbert 'Bert' Walker, a native of St. Louis, who founded the banking and investment firm of G. H. Walker and Company in 1900. Later the company shifted from St. Louis to the prestigious address of 1 Wall Street.


Walker was one of Hitler's most powerful financial supporters in the United States. The relationship went all the way back to 1924, when Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist, was financing Hitler's infant Nazi party. As mentioned in earlier chapters, there were American contributors as well.


The link between Harriman & Company's American investors and Thyssen started in the 1920s, through the Union Banking Corporation, which began trading in 1924. In just one three-year period, the Harriman firm sold more than $50 million of German bonds to American investors. 'Bert' Walker was Union Banking's president, and the firm was located in the offices of Averill Harriman's company at 39 Broadway in New York.


http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/randy/swas5.htm

After the "Hitler's Angel" article was published Bush and Harriman made no attempts to divest themselves of the controversial Thyssen financial alliance, nor did they challenge the newspaper report that UBC was, in fact, a de facto Nazi front organization in the US. Instead, the government documents show, Bush and his partners increased their subterfuge to try to conceal the true nature and ownership of their various businesses, particularly after the US entered the war. The documents also disclose that Cornelis Lievense, Thyssen's personal appointee to oversee US matters for his Rotterdam-based Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V., via UBC for nearly two decades, repeatedly denied to US government investigators any knowledge of the ownership of the Netherlands bank or the role of Thyssen in it. Brown Brothers Harriman sent letters to the government seeking reconsideration of the seizures by using false information.

UBC's original group of business associates included George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, who had a relationship with the Harriman family that began in 1919. In 1922, Walker and W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin to set up the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal.


In the 1990s, former US Justice Department Nazi war crimes prosecutor John Loftus, now honorary president of the Florida Holocaust Museum, wrote a book and launched a web site (http://www.john-loftus.com) which did breakthrough reporting, including establishing the link between Prescott Bush, Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation and forced labor at Auschwitz.


http://www.rense.com/general42/bshnazi.htm

John Loftus - once held some of the highest security clearances in the world, with special access to NATO Cosmic, CIA codeword, and Top Secret Nuclear files. As a private attorney, he works without charge to help hundreds of intelligence agents obtain lawful permission to declassify and publish the hidden secrets of our times. He is the author of four history books, three of which have been made into films, two were international best sellers, and one was nominated for the Pulitzer Prize.

To name all the contacts of PB and GHW would take the better part of the year, and I have plans for thanksgiving, not to mention the fact that some of these guys were actually clever and didn’t get caught, hence their actions never became public knowlege.

Even GHWB doesn’t deny his father’s Nazi connections; he doesn’t deny the FACT that he, his father, and his son are members of the German death cult Skull and Bones…why are you?

Stick to what you’re good at, whitewashing 9/11…





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